College prof here. Possessing information is not the same as knowing it, or (more importantly) the same as having learned enough about it to be able to redeploy it in new ways. Notetaking - active distillation accompanied by organization and thought - is a first step towards building active control of information before examining and synthesizing it. Downloading a copy of my PowerPoint does not constitute learning anything. Neither does having a copy of my notes. My notes helped *me* learn so I could teach. My students' own notes, made by them (including those made in accordance with learning accommodations) help *them* learn so they can use what I am teaching them.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.

No they don’t. That is so rare LOL

Well my sample is small...but just had about 6 kids from different colleges hanging out at my house. This is what they described. 2 go to T20 schools. These kids study by rewatching lectures on fast speed. DH has an intern who does not attend her class...just watches the video.

This is not learning. This is absorption with delayed release for regurgitation.

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Anonymous wrote:People process in different ways. If you are an audio learning, the opportunity to listen to the class again is great. For another kid the process of writing notes aids in memory. Another kid really needs that study group to discuss.

I think those of us who went to school before all the high tech of classrooms today have a different concept of learning. I could never snap a picture of my teachers summary outline or graph from the board! It is better than my writing down some notes about it.

which do you think will actually help you learn and remember the content? Handwriting notes where you paraphrase what the teacher is saying or snapping a photo and never looking at it again until you want to remember one point from it?

Neither. Answering a question that forces me to think is the best way. Bonus points if the question came from me, not from the homework I was given.

Anonymous wrote:People process in different ways. If you are an audio learning, the opportunity to listen to the class again is great. For another kid the process of writing notes aids in memory. Another kid really needs that study group to discuss.

I think those of us who went to school before all the high tech of classrooms today have a different concept of learning. I could never snap a picture of my teachers summary outline or graph from the board! It is better than my writing down some notes about it.

which do you think will actually help you learn and remember the content? Handwriting notes where you paraphrase what the teacher is saying or snapping a photo and never looking at it again until you want to remember one point from it?

People process in different ways. If you are an audio learning, the opportunity to listen to the class again is great. For another kid the process of writing notes aids in memory. Another kid really needs that study group to discuss.

I think those of us who went to school before all the high tech of classrooms today have a different concept of learning. I could never snap a picture of my teachers summary outline or graph from the board! It is better than my writing down some notes about it.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

But it’s not how undergrad or grad students are taught. Teens need to know how to take notes

You think that taking notes means solely writing down what is on slides? Hahahaha

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

Interesting. My DC says they take some notes in college, and HS. Straight A student in both.

My 9th grader has not only learned to take notes (taught in class in MCPS) but has had multiple assignments where he has had to upload photos to prove that he has taken notes.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

What on earth are you saying??

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.

No they don’t. That is so rare LOL

Well my sample is small...but just had about 6 kids from different colleges hanging out at my house. This is what they described. 2 go to T20 schools. These kids study by rewatching lectures on fast speed. DH has an intern who does not attend her class...just watches the video.

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That is incredibly lazy education then. Yikes. Well I guess it depends on the class. In my upperclassman science classes that wouldn’t have been enough at all to pass.

The intern is a fairly lazy student. The other kids all came from RMIB and Blair. They are top students. I am not sure why reviewing the classes is lazy education. It is just a reasource that was not available when I was in school.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.

No they don’t. That is so rare LOL

Well my sample is small...but just had about 6 kids from different colleges hanging out at my house. This is what they described. 2 go to T20 schools. These kids study by rewatching lectures on fast speed. DH has an intern who does not attend her class...just watches the video.

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That is incredibly lazy education then. Yikes. Well I guess it depends on the class. In my upperclassman science classes that wouldn’t have been enough at all to pass.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.

No they don’t. That is so rare LOL

Well my sample is small...but just had about 6 kids from different colleges hanging out at my house. This is what they described. 2 go to T20 schools. These kids study by rewatching lectures on fast speed. DH has an intern who does not attend her class...just watches the video.

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Anonymous wrote:I am in middle and I teach them as best as I can in my lessons!!! Believe me I get it! Instead of canned advisory lessons that no one is invested in we really should be teaching these skills. Drives me nuts!

+1 omg..my kids tell me that all the kids think the feel good lessons during advisory are a joke. Time would be better spent on teaching them how to take notes or even about finances.

Please communicate this to central office. Hammer this point home. Everyone there loves Advisory and think of it as a feather in their cap. Maybe they'll listen to parents because they don't listen to teachers about the uselessness of advisory.

pfft.. they don't listen to parents, either. They just listen to their own voices in their own echo chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.

That doesn’t mean the student is engaged in learning. There have been studies done that demonstrate that writing notes increases retention and the ability to conceptualize problems asked of them. Granted it’s even more when done physically by hand. So if a student listens in class and then goes home and annotates the professor’s lecture or notes and does well on an assessment then there is more evidence of the benefit of understanding what it means to “take notes”

+1 I have been telling my teens (one in college, other in HS) about taking notes by hand, not on the computer, because it uses that muscle memory.

They fought it initially, but when they started handwriting the notes, it really helped. My one DC who is a straight A student in HS and college said that they can picture their notes on the paper in their mind's eye, and it helps when they take tests.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.

No they don’t. That is so rare LOL

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Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.

Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.

They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.

That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.

I have a junior in college and one in 1st year med school and you are so wrong