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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.

Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.

so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?

I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.

I don't even know what this means.

Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is not at Kenyon, but I have spent time on campus and my kid is a D3 athlete. Kenyon is a beautiful campus with spectacular athletic facilities. Good luck to your child and you MIL should keep her mouth shut.

Agree. SLAC are nothing like a public high school! Really stupid thing to “wonder”.

Many SLACs are similar--very similar--to prep boarding schools and may resemble to a lesser extent good private day schools.

Similar in what way? My kids graduated from or currently attend three different private day schools in the DMV, all generally deemed as "Big 3" by DCUM. The oldest two went on to a NESCAC college. Neither has found it to "resemble" their high school other than in being a relatively small school where it is easy to get to know their classmates. Both have found their college classes to be more demanding and neither is bored in the least.

Was thinking mostly of the elite New England prep boarding schools (HADES for example) and elite NYC private day schools. (Know of several dozen kids who experienced this from those schools.)

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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.

Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.

so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?

I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.

I don't even know what this means.

Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.

Anonymous wrote:Never heard of the term NARP before. I would never want my kid to go to a school where there is a divide. Many college students played sports through high school and have no interest in playing at university. If a campus has a weird athlete v non athlete vibe that’s critical to know. How would one find this info? It’s likely not apparent on a campus tour.

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Anonymous wrote:Its to woke now. The smart and popular kids go to Dennison these days.

So smart that they can’t even spell the name of the school correctly?

Anonymous wrote:Its to woke now. The smart and popular kids go to Dennison these days.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is not at Kenyon, but I have spent time on campus and my kid is a D3 athlete. Kenyon is a beautiful campus with spectacular athletic facilities. Good luck to your child and you MIL should keep her mouth shut.

Agree. SLAC are nothing like a public high school! Really stupid thing to “wonder”.

Many SLACs are similar--very similar--to prep boarding schools and may resemble to a lesser extent good private day schools.

Similar in what way? My kids graduated from or currently attend three different private day schools in the DMV, all generally deemed as "Big 3" by DCUM. The oldest two went on to a NESCAC college. Neither has found it to "resemble" their high school other than in being a relatively small school where it is easy to get to know their classmates. Both have found their college classes to be more demanding and neither is bored in the least.

Was thinking mostly of the elite New England prep boarding schools (HADES for example) and elite NYC private day schools. (Know of several dozen kids who experienced this from those schools.)

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is not at Kenyon, but I have spent time on campus and my kid is a D3 athlete. Kenyon is a beautiful campus with spectacular athletic facilities. Good luck to your child and you MIL should keep her mouth shut.

Agree. SLAC are nothing like a public high school! Really stupid thing to “wonder”.

Many SLACs are similar--very similar--to prep boarding schools and may resemble to a lesser extent good private day schools.

Similar in what way? My kids graduated from or currently attend three different private day schools in the DMV, all generally deemed as "Big 3" by DCUM. The oldest two went on to a NESCAC college. Neither has found it to "resemble" their high school other than in being a relatively small school where it is easy to get to know their classmates. Both have found their college classes to be more demanding and neither is bored in the least.

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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.

Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.

so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?

I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.

I don't even know what this means.

Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.

What gives you these ridiculous whacked out visions? Just alcohol, or have you been hitting up the new pot shops in Tenleytown? Seems like a little paranoia is setting in.

I'm drawing caricatures and leaning into stereotypes here, but is there not some truth in this proposed spectrum of college student personalities?

No, not in real life. No one is all one or the other.

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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.

Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.

so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?

I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.

I don't even know what this means.

Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.

What gives you these ridiculous whacked out visions? Just alcohol, or have you been hitting up the new pot shops in Tenleytown? Seems like a little paranoia is setting in.

I'm drawing caricatures and leaning into stereotypes here, but is there not some truth in this proposed spectrum of college student personalities?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is not at Kenyon, but I have spent time on campus and my kid is a D3 athlete. Kenyon is a beautiful campus with spectacular athletic facilities. Good luck to your child and you MIL should keep her mouth shut.

Agree. SLAC are nothing like a public high school! Really stupid thing to “wonder”.

Many SLACs are similar--very similar--to prep boarding schools and may resemble to a lesser extent good private day schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the SLACs are where the athletes and the NARPs can frolic freely together.

Not necessarily. Friend of mine had a son at Williams who said the athlete / rich kid / woke kid / "everyone else" cliques didn't mix much.

so four cliques? jock, rich, woke, and remainder?

I think it’s basically two. Athletes are often from well to do backgrounds so there is a natural overlap with jock and rich. (Some would argue the point of athletics is to attract full pay rich kids.) This woke nonsense has exacerbated the natural divergence between goal oriented athletes and creative/intellectual/dissolute NARPs. Now the NARPs can’t even be reasoned with. My DS at Kenyon is really far from a traditional jock although he plays a sport. But he does find a lot of these NARPs are truly abnormal people- shockingly so. His estimate is about half of them are really off the deep end. I’m happy his social life is centered around the sports/Greek kids (who overlap heavily). This generation may just be a little stranger than previous ones. Raised on iPhones, Covid, the rise of transgenderism/BLM, etc.

I don't even know what this means.

Imagine two boys. One has purple hair, is committed to social justice, enjoys drugs, writes poetry, plays the flute, and considers himself non-binary. Another one plays lacrosse, has a closet full of vineyard vines, enjoys beer and aspires to run a hedge fund. What I’m suggesting is a social paradigm that can be semi-accurately described as a tension between these two extreme poles.

What gives you these ridiculous whacked out visions? Just alcohol, or have you been hitting up the new pot shops in Tenleytown? Seems like a little paranoia is setting in.