Anonymous
Post 12/01/2023 21:21     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:Serious question. All the sh#t is trickling downhill from the USAO. When they don’t charge criminals and chronically “catch & release”, it demoralizes MPD from doing their jobs. Meanwhile, the Council sits with their thumbs up their butt waiting for USAO to put criminals away.

So yeah, how do we fix USAO?


Paging AG Garland.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2023 21:17     Subject: Re:How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everything starts with city council. If you want change, get rid of Charles Allen and Janeese Lewis George, the cochairs of the pro-criminal caucus



+1



This thread is about the federally appointed USAO. Start your own thread about the Council or join an ongoing one. The DC Council is not where "everything starts" re: USAO, which is part of DOJ.


This.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 21:59     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Nadeau made an absolute fool of herself (yet again) tonight at a community meeting about crime. Video:

https://twitter.com/aprilhb/status/1729672973689200828?t=6uH6Jne0TVLTsbxpdmfZ1w&s=19
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 13:19     Subject: Re:How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everything starts with city council. If you want change, get rid of Charles Allen and Janeese Lewis George, the cochairs of the pro-criminal caucus



+1



This thread is about the federally appointed USAO. Start your own thread about the Council or join an ongoing one. The DC Council is not where "everything starts" re: USAO, which is part of DOJ.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 11:37     Subject: Re:How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:Everything starts with city council. If you want change, get rid of Charles Allen and Janeese Lewis George, the cochairs of the pro-criminal caucus



+1

Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 11:04     Subject: Re:How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?



The metrics re: evaluation of USA staff need to be changed so as not to incentivize avoiding trials. That is one driver of the rush to plead down ridiculously.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 11:01     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Ha, most of the time they DO NOT CHARGE AT ALL!!!
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 11:00     Subject: Re:How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?



The complete breakdown in the system, perhaps driven by ideology, is stunning. The impact on the city, public safety and quality of life in just a few years has been tremendous. Yet, no sign of a course correction yet. The USAO functioned fairly consistently, and in range of other D cities prior to 2017. Since, it is a complete outlier. A lot of the staff are detailed there for a year, perhaps sending law and order types with some trial experience would be a small start? As would eliminating prosecutorial discretion. The PDS judges are more of a challenge but a plan needs to be devised to prevent them from just rolling to another 15 year term. That is the pressure point.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 10:53     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The AG does not have authority over serious crimes. It’s a vestige of DC’s lack of statehood and full home rule that we don’t control the prosecution of serious felonies.


The elected AG handles juvenile crime. Where we are now is Racine’s legacy, unless you believe that criminals only start committing crimes after they turn 18.

+1,000. So much of this crime wave is driven by people between 15-25 years old. People need to remember Racine’s impact on the current crime crisis when he eventually re-emerges to run for some other elective office. How convenient for him that he left OAG just as the results of his policies have come to bear.


I suspect he will run for mayor.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 08:50     Subject: Re:How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

These stats really bring it home. What can we do to get Congressional oversight over DOJ/USAO?

Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 07:05     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question. All the sh#t is trickling downhill from the USAO. When they don’t charge criminals and chronically “catch & release”, it demoralizes MPD from doing their jobs. Meanwhile, the Council sits with their thumbs up their butt waiting for USAO to put criminals away.

So yeah, how do we fix USAO?


This ^ I expect elected politicians to advocate for (ie represent) their constituents. How come you have to do the think work on this? Why aren't the people we elected picking up the phone, leading marches and sit ins, calling the press etc?


They campaigned on this. This Council is, remarkably, more left-leaning than the last. Cheh is replaced by pickleball. Allen ran unopposed. Ravine’s hand picked successor was elected to continue his juvenile “justice” practices.

This is what the electorate wants.


Not sure I agree there - there was no choice presented re: Allen as you note. Nadeau only won because opponents fragmented the vote. W3 is a disaster but Frumin got in due to last minute shenanigans by the establishment.

I kept thinking there would be some course correction but no sign. Armed robberies in daylight in Adams Morgan Thanksgiving weekend, multiple shootings in downtown, including Dupont, a snatched at gunpoint Frenchie in Brookland and the Council proposes "media vouchers."

As more leave, perhaps shrinking coffers will trigger a change.

Between the crime and the unenforced traffic laws and the nonfunctional 911 call center, it is genuinely dangerous here.


A Republican ran against Frumin who I can only presume would have been better on crime. I voted R, but Frumin won Obviously my neighbors were unable to hold their noses and vote R. Maybe next time? Or recall Frumin?


The republican ran a very weak campaign almost solely on opposition to bike lanes.

Quite honestly, a small %age are really for or against bike lanes and the rest of us really don’t care that much one way or the other.

I remember speaking with him and another big issue was charter schools. Well, considering Ward 3 has no charter schools (except a small pre-k) and sends a very low %age of kids to charters…well that is another issue that doesn’t resonate.

He never mentioned crime once when I spoke to him.


His published platform mentioned crime. Some Ward 3 kids attend charters... - Latins first campus was in Ward 3. Choices. Id expect hed be better on crime than Frumin who is basically a no show.


Some Ward 3 attend charters…means almost none. Most are DCPS or private, so run on some platform for those two factions…or at least mention how he will bring a real charter to Ward 3.

He actually told me he is really an independent but the Republican refused to bow out and not run someone (no idea if this is true), so it was 100% pointless to have both a republican and an independent.

He was low energy as well. I liked the guy, but he wasn’t running like he had a chance.


Like he had no chance


Not sure what your point is. We can keep voting for the same or we can vote differently. If we keep voting for the same, we shouldn't expect a different outcome.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 22:42     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question. All the sh#t is trickling downhill from the USAO. When they don’t charge criminals and chronically “catch & release”, it demoralizes MPD from doing their jobs. Meanwhile, the Council sits with their thumbs up their butt waiting for USAO to put criminals away.

So yeah, how do we fix USAO?


This ^ I expect elected politicians to advocate for (ie represent) their constituents. How come you have to do the think work on this? Why aren't the people we elected picking up the phone, leading marches and sit ins, calling the press etc?


They campaigned on this. This Council is, remarkably, more left-leaning than the last. Cheh is replaced by pickleball. Allen ran unopposed. Ravine’s hand picked successor was elected to continue his juvenile “justice” practices.

This is what the electorate wants.


Not sure I agree there - there was no choice presented re: Allen as you note. Nadeau only won because opponents fragmented the vote. W3 is a disaster but Frumin got in due to last minute shenanigans by the establishment.

I kept thinking there would be some course correction but no sign. Armed robberies in daylight in Adams Morgan Thanksgiving weekend, multiple shootings in downtown, including Dupont, a snatched at gunpoint Frenchie in Brookland and the Council proposes "media vouchers."

As more leave, perhaps shrinking coffers will trigger a change.

Between the crime and the unenforced traffic laws and the nonfunctional 911 call center, it is genuinely dangerous here.


A Republican ran against Frumin who I can only presume would have been better on crime. I voted R, but Frumin won Obviously my neighbors were unable to hold their noses and vote R. Maybe next time? Or recall Frumin?


The republican ran a very weak campaign almost solely on opposition to bike lanes.

Quite honestly, a small %age are really for or against bike lanes and the rest of us really don’t care that much one way or the other.

I remember speaking with him and another big issue was charter schools. Well, considering Ward 3 has no charter schools (except a small pre-k) and sends a very low %age of kids to charters…well that is another issue that doesn’t resonate.

He never mentioned crime once when I spoke to him.


His published platform mentioned crime. Some Ward 3 kids attend charters... - Latins first campus was in Ward 3. Choices. Id expect hed be better on crime than Frumin who is basically a no show.


Some Ward 3 attend charters…means almost none. Most are DCPS or private, so run on some platform for those two factions…or at least mention how he will bring a real charter to Ward 3.

He actually told me he is really an independent but the Republican refused to bow out and not run someone (no idea if this is true), so it was 100% pointless to have both a republican and an independent.

He was low energy as well. I liked the guy, but he wasn’t running like he had a chance.


Like he had no chance
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 22:41     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question. All the sh#t is trickling downhill from the USAO. When they don’t charge criminals and chronically “catch & release”, it demoralizes MPD from doing their jobs. Meanwhile, the Council sits with their thumbs up their butt waiting for USAO to put criminals away.

So yeah, how do we fix USAO?


This ^ I expect elected politicians to advocate for (ie represent) their constituents. How come you have to do the think work on this? Why aren't the people we elected picking up the phone, leading marches and sit ins, calling the press etc?


They campaigned on this. This Council is, remarkably, more left-leaning than the last. Cheh is replaced by pickleball. Allen ran unopposed. Ravine’s hand picked successor was elected to continue his juvenile “justice” practices.

This is what the electorate wants.


Not sure I agree there - there was no choice presented re: Allen as you note. Nadeau only won because opponents fragmented the vote. W3 is a disaster but Frumin got in due to last minute shenanigans by the establishment.

I kept thinking there would be some course correction but no sign. Armed robberies in daylight in Adams Morgan Thanksgiving weekend, multiple shootings in downtown, including Dupont, a snatched at gunpoint Frenchie in Brookland and the Council proposes "media vouchers."

As more leave, perhaps shrinking coffers will trigger a change.

Between the crime and the unenforced traffic laws and the nonfunctional 911 call center, it is genuinely dangerous here.


A Republican ran against Frumin who I can only presume would have been better on crime. I voted R, but Frumin won Obviously my neighbors were unable to hold their noses and vote R. Maybe next time? Or recall Frumin?


The republican ran a very weak campaign almost solely on opposition to bike lanes.

Quite honestly, a small %age are really for or against bike lanes and the rest of us really don’t care that much one way or the other.

I remember speaking with him and another big issue was charter schools. Well, considering Ward 3 has no charter schools (except a small pre-k) and sends a very low %age of kids to charters…well that is another issue that doesn’t resonate.

He never mentioned crime once when I spoke to him.


His published platform mentioned crime. Some Ward 3 kids attend charters... - Latins first campus was in Ward 3. Choices. Id expect hed be better on crime than Frumin who is basically a no show.


Some Ward 3 attend charters…means almost none. Most are DCPS or private, so run on some platform for those two factions…or at least mention how he will bring a real charter to Ward 3.

He actually told me he is really an independent but the Republican refused to bow out and not run someone (no idea if this is true), so it was 100% pointless to have both a republican and an independent.

He was low energy as well. I liked the guy, but he wasn’t running like he had a chance.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 22:30     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question. All the sh#t is trickling downhill from the USAO. When they don’t charge criminals and chronically “catch & release”, it demoralizes MPD from doing their jobs. Meanwhile, the Council sits with their thumbs up their butt waiting for USAO to put criminals away.

So yeah, how do we fix USAO?


This ^ I expect elected politicians to advocate for (ie represent) their constituents. How come you have to do the think work on this? Why aren't the people we elected picking up the phone, leading marches and sit ins, calling the press etc?


They campaigned on this. This Council is, remarkably, more left-leaning than the last. Cheh is replaced by pickleball. Allen ran unopposed. Ravine’s hand picked successor was elected to continue his juvenile “justice” practices.

This is what the electorate wants.


Not sure I agree there - there was no choice presented re: Allen as you note. Nadeau only won because opponents fragmented the vote. W3 is a disaster but Frumin got in due to last minute shenanigans by the establishment.

I kept thinking there would be some course correction but no sign. Armed robberies in daylight in Adams Morgan Thanksgiving weekend, multiple shootings in downtown, including Dupont, a snatched at gunpoint Frenchie in Brookland and the Council proposes "media vouchers."

As more leave, perhaps shrinking coffers will trigger a change.

Between the crime and the unenforced traffic laws and the nonfunctional 911 call center, it is genuinely dangerous here.


A Republican ran against Frumin who I can only presume would have been better on crime. I voted R, but Frumin won Obviously my neighbors were unable to hold their noses and vote R. Maybe next time? Or recall Frumin?


The republican ran a very weak campaign almost solely on opposition to bike lanes.

Quite honestly, a small %age are really for or against bike lanes and the rest of us really don’t care that much one way or the other.

I remember speaking with him and another big issue was charter schools. Well, considering Ward 3 has no charter schools (except a small pre-k) and sends a very low %age of kids to charters…well that is another issue that doesn’t resonate.

He never mentioned crime once when I spoke to him.


His published platform mentioned crime. Some Ward 3 kids attend charters... - Latins first campus was in Ward 3. Choices. Id expect hed be better on crime than Frumin who is basically a no show.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 21:39     Subject: How do we get the USAO to do their jobs and put career criminals in prison?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The AG does not have authority over serious crimes. It’s a vestige of DC’s lack of statehood and full home rule that we don’t control the prosecution of serious felonies.


The elected AG handles juvenile crime. Where we are now is Racine’s legacy, unless you believe that criminals only start committing crimes after they turn 18.

+1,000. So much of this crime wave is driven by people between 15-25 years old. People need to remember Racine’s impact on the current crime crisis when he eventually re-emerges to run for some other elective office. How convenient for him that he left OAG just as the results of his policies have come to bear.