Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 10:15     Subject: Re:Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:MCPS did this for the schooling side of it. They sent the most troubled students to their own school in Rockville. The problem was, the composition of this school was disproportionately students of one particular gender, and two particular races. It was not seen as equitable.


Let's not pretend one sex doesn't commit most crimes.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 10:14     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

They should be incarcerated in juvi while waiting trial if they don't make bail which should be set high enough or not at all for violent offenders. You don't want the rotten apple to go back in the basket and ruin everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 09:40     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:Because military school instructors can no longer lay a finger on kids and the kids know it. The kids who commit these crimes are not going to bother listening to a fake drill sergeant when they know there is nothing backing up the threat.


This. Most of you commie mommies are delulu.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 09:38     Subject: Re:Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:I would rather my tax dollars go to military schools to get the kids into some discipline, the military is already having a hard time getting recruits so this makes sense.

Hard labor camps ??? To the above poster, this is not a backward third-world country, geez, what backwater state are you from? A forced labor camp sounds like North Korea. People's train of thoughts demonstrates where they fall on the socioeconomic scale.


So you want to ruin the military we count on to defend our Republic by using it to try and fix (and fail) defective, amoral criminals? That seems like a good idea to you? Yes, the military needs help meeting recruiting goals right now. The way to fix that is to pay junior enlisted members a lot more. If a recruit earned $90k/yr right out of basic training, the recruiting shortfall would literally end overnight. High school grads would be competing for an enlistment spot. That’s how you solve recruiting problems - not by flooding our military with criminal scumbags.


Yes, we should absolutely have “hard labor camps” where criminals are forced to toil 12 hours a day. It’s prison. It’s supposed to be punishment. It provides a strong incentive for reforming criminal behavior by creating an overwhelming desire not to be sent back.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 09:28     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why not force juvenile offenders to serve on work gangs picking up litter, clearing brush, hauling garbage from waterways, etc. DC has plenty of tasks to do. 9 hours a day, 6 days a week in neon jumpsuits so everyone knows who they are. Ankle monitors should keep them from wandering off. If they slack off, then put them in lockup for an attitude adjustment m.


100% this.


I don't support this at all. Have you all not seen the recent news story of the young white kid who was supposed to get out of jail, had two weeks left, and was sexually assaulted for days on end and then left for dead? Yes, youth deserve punishment, but they do not deserve to be placed with hardened criminals. Many of these kids are foster kids, parents on drugs, or largely abandoned and had to raise themselves. Society should not treat them as throw aways.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 09:25     Subject: Re:Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

I would rather my tax dollars go to military schools to get the kids into some discipline, the military is already having a hard time getting recruits so this makes sense.

Hard labor camps ??? To the above poster, this is not a backward third-world country, geez, what backwater state are you from? A forced labor camp sounds like North Korea. People's train of thoughts demonstrates where they fall on the socioeconomic scale.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 22:04     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:As a former cadet who went to a military boarding school in Virginia for 7 academic years (grades 6-12) I would definitely NOT want juvenile offenders placed alongside me and my fellow cadets as some kind of “reformatory” punishment.

My parents worked their asses off to pay the annual tuition for my schooling. Why should criminal youth get a free ride to the same school my folks paid $12k-$16k a year for (in the 90’s!).

Secondly, we were at a military school because we WANTED to be there. Forcing people to go to that environment would totally destroy the esprit de corps of a cadet battalion.

Most of the corps of cadets at my school went on to either service academies or college ROTC programs, or enlisted and were immediately promoted to junior NCO ranks immediately after basic. Military schools have a very specific purpose - producing service academy attendees and ROTC grads for the officer ranks, or career-minded enlisted personnel. They are NOT for criminal sh!tbirds.


+1 I had friends who went to Staunton Military Academy and Augusta Military Academy.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 21:28     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:Why not force juvenile offenders to serve on work gangs picking up litter, clearing brush, hauling garbage from waterways, etc. DC has plenty of tasks to do. 9 hours a day, 6 days a week in neon jumpsuits so everyone knows who they are. Ankle monitors should keep them from wandering off. If they slack off, then put them in lockup for an attitude adjustment m.


100% this.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 21:24     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

As a former cadet who went to a military boarding school in Virginia for 7 academic years (grades 6-12) I would definitely NOT want juvenile offenders placed alongside me and my fellow cadets as some kind of “reformatory” punishment.

My parents worked their asses off to pay the annual tuition for my schooling. Why should criminal youth get a free ride to the same school my folks paid $12k-$16k a year for (in the 90’s!).

Secondly, we were at a military school because we WANTED to be there. Forcing people to go to that environment would totally destroy the esprit de corps of a cadet battalion.

Most of the corps of cadets at my school went on to either service academies or college ROTC programs, or enlisted and were immediately promoted to junior NCO ranks immediately after basic. Military schools have a very specific purpose - producing service academy attendees and ROTC grads for the officer ranks, or career-minded enlisted personnel. They are NOT for criminal sh!tbirds.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 21:16     Subject: Re:Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

A military school — that provided job skills and possible paths to military careers is something that I would support.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 21:09     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to bring back scared straight

Scared straight programs don’t work. In fact, if you look at the research, scared straight participation actually *increases* the likelihood of subsequent offending.

https://portal.cops.usdoj.gov/resourcecenter/ric/Publications/cops-p288-pub.pdf


Just allowing them to continue committing crimes ain't working either.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 21:08     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:Because military school instructors can no longer lay a finger on kids and the kids know it. The kids who commit these crimes are not going to bother listening to a fake drill sergeant when they know there is nothing backing up the threat.


+1 Kids today are not allowed to be given consequences of any type.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 20:58     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

There is no longer an educational path for hundreds, if not thousands, of teens in the DMV. The learning loss due in part to heavy handed COVID shutdowns is insurmountable, if we’re being honest. This is a ticking time bomb and we’re only beginning to see the impacts. I don’t know what the solution is, but incarceration is sadly one needed component.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 20:04     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

“intensive wraparound services” = hugs not thugs
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2023 20:03     Subject: Military School for Juvenile Offenders?

Anonymous wrote:Send them to Ukraine to clear minefields


This.