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Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

It's weighted 2x what GPA is weighted in the Academic Index that many schools still use. And you're taking issue with 10 - 12%?

Huh? GPA and strength of transcript actually has been weighted at like 65% which is on the record.

Academic Index isn’t used much since everyone went TO. Your frame of reference is dated.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

Really? What DOES reflect "brains" then?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

It's weighted 2x what GPA is weighted in the Academic Index that many schools still use. And you're taking issue with 10 - 12%?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

You sound very bitter. No one but you believes that.

Umm. Not pp, but this is a pretty widely held, and actually very substantiated with a mountain of data, view.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

And this is a very important step.

It is a new cycle with new rules. At least wait until year and some actual facts before having an opinion / complaint.

Anonymous wrote:Submit. If you do not, they are going to worry that you have a score much worse than 1500.

100% agree.

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Anonymous wrote:You spend your money to hire a college counselor to get your kid into college and don’t even listen to them?

Needs a different college counselor.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

You sound very bitter. No one but you believes that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

Except when it doesn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:86% of enrolled Duke students starting in fall 2022 submitted scores. Duke wants scores. Absolutely submit and don’t look back. And apply to plenty of targets.

According to the brochure my son received at a recent info session, 68% of enrolled students (Fall 2023) submitted scores.

This number will keep dropping. Very few California high school students take the ACT or SAT any longer. The UC and Cal State schools, along with Caltech now refuse test scores. Test optional schools have to be truly test optional if they want to compete in the biggest pool of high school students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

Anonymous wrote:Duke’s CDS indicates the 25th percentile at 1490. Also that 93% submit test scores, before overlap is accounted for. Submit 1500 everywhere & definitely give college counselor the boot. The 1500 may help keep you in consideration. It definitely won’t be the reason your child is rejected.

I agree but note that’s the fall 2021 data.

Duke’s CDS indicates the 25th percentile at 1490. Also that 93% submit test scores, before overlap is accounted for. Submit 1500 everywhere & definitely give college counselor the boot. The 1500 may help keep you in consideration. It definitely won’t be the reason your child is rejected.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:86% of enrolled Duke students starting in fall 2022 submitted scores. Duke wants scores. Absolutely submit and don’t look back. And apply to plenty of targets.

According to the brochure my son received at a recent info session, 68% of enrolled students (Fall 2023) submitted scores.

Interesting. They haven’t released their CDS this year for some reason.