Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:32
Subject: Re:Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court decision has emboldened Whites and Asians to apply to great schools because their race now won’t hurt their admission chances. Also, kids are looking for strong academics, not wokeness gone wrong. That’s why Duke has a surge of ED and Yale doesn’t. Also, folks are tired of NE provincialism.
Wrong. ED was always there for rich white kids. It's not like Duke has a large percentage of URMs anyways.
Duke is a T10 school that top students want as their first choice. Not complicated.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:31
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, my DS applied to Yale early and they only saw a 1% increase in early applicants this year. Duke is seriously getting popular, my DS is definitely applying RD even if Yale comes back with an acceptance.
Are you legacy? Yale has a 3-4% total acceptance rate.
Yale's acceptance rate has never been below 4%, only Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, and Columbia have gotten that low. Yale, Duke, Penn are generally ~5% acceptance rate.
So basically a throw away restricted early action. Tough call to make.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:30
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 10% of the class at my kid's Big3 applied ED to Duke. Many are legacy, all are smart.
So you're saying at least 5% of your Big 3 has legacy at Duke? Seems pretty absurd, but maybe makes sense since their parents probably earned a lot after attending Duke.
The legacy at these privates is absurd. I'd say 60% of the class has legacy at one Ivy or another (given two parents per child). Probably 5% at Duke (with a bunch of overlap with the Ivies--one parent Duke alum, one parent an Ivy alum).
Actually I think it may be higher for Duke--more like 10%.
Remember, some of the Big3 only have 75 kids per class. I know at least 5 kids with Duke legacy out of 75 kids and that's just from the families I know well. That's already 7.5%.
Honestly, most of the Duke people I know (for undergrad anyway) can't afford a Big3 school!
I know lots of wealthy Duke people so it really depends what circles you spend time with. In DC in particular I've met an abundance of wealthy Harvard, Princeton, Duke, and Penn people.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:25
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Here's my theory... For a long time the top ED school was Columbia by a wide margin. After their scandal and some other unfavorable aspects about Columbia coming to light, someone had to fill the void... and so far it's been Duke and UPenn. I bet Penn will also announce an increase in ED applicants too, probably not as large as Duke's though. I can't explain a 30% increase in ED applicants though, that's pretty incredible. Looks like lots of smart kids are fighting for a spot right now.
This is interesting, but unless Columbia has received a significant drop in ED applicants (it hasn't) then it doesn't make sense
Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:17
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, my DS applied to Yale early and they only saw a 1% increase in early applicants this year. Duke is seriously getting popular, my DS is definitely applying RD even if Yale comes back with an acceptance.
Are you legacy? Yale has a 3-4% total acceptance rate.
Yale's acceptance rate has never been below 4%, only Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, and Columbia have gotten that low. Yale, Duke, Penn are generally ~5% acceptance rate.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:12
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, my DS applied to Yale early and they only saw a 1% increase in early applicants this year. Duke is seriously getting popular, my DS is definitely applying RD even if Yale comes back with an acceptance.
Are you legacy? Yale has a 3-4% total acceptance rate.
No Yale has generally been 5-6%, but is probably going to be ~4.5% this year, as will Duke.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:06
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 10% of the class at my kid's Big3 applied ED to Duke. Many are legacy, all are smart.
So you're saying at least 5% of your Big 3 has legacy at Duke? Seems pretty absurd, but maybe makes sense since their parents probably earned a lot after attending Duke.
The legacy at these privates is absurd. I'd say 60% of the class has legacy at one Ivy or another (given two parents per child). Probably 5% at Duke (with a bunch of overlap with the Ivies--one parent Duke alum, one parent an Ivy alum).
Actually I think it may be higher for Duke--more like 10%.
Remember, some of the Big3 only have 75 kids per class. I know at least 5 kids with Duke legacy out of 75 kids and that's just from the families I know well. That's already 7.5%.
Duke LOVES legacies and big donors (they are not unique like this, Princeton, Stanford, Yale, etc are the same). The most recent info I could find online isn't so recent (from 2016) was from a presentation by Dean Guttentag that between 10-15% of each class is made up of legacies, which honestly seemed low to me.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. And I am not a big Duke fan, but them the breaks I guess.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 15:02
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Wow, my DS applied to Yale early and they only saw a 1% increase in early applicants this year. Duke is seriously getting popular, my DS is definitely applying RD even if Yale comes back with an acceptance.
Are you legacy? Yale has a 3-4% total acceptance rate.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 14:35
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 10% of the class at my kid's Big3 applied ED to Duke. Many are legacy, all are smart.
So you're saying at least 5% of your Big 3 has legacy at Duke? Seems pretty absurd, but maybe makes sense since their parents probably earned a lot after attending Duke.
The legacy at these privates is absurd. I'd say 60% of the class has legacy at one Ivy or another (given two parents per child). Probably 5% at Duke (with a bunch of overlap with the Ivies--one parent Duke alum, one parent an Ivy alum).
Actually I think it may be higher for Duke--more like 10%.
Remember, some of the Big3 only have 75 kids per class. I know at least 5 kids with Duke legacy out of 75 kids and that's just from the families I know well. That's already 7.5%.
Honestly, most of the Duke people I know (for undergrad anyway) can't afford a Big3 school!
Anonymous
11/21/2023 14:16
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:DD's counselor got an email from Duke, they received a ~30% increase in ED applicants this year, and are projecting an ED acceptance rate below 13%... This has not helped DD's confidence for her ED chances. On a lighter note, has anyone else seen the applicant numbers for their kid's early school yet?
Duke ED is pretty crazy, especially considering this includes their national level athletes. This basically includes someone like Cooper Flagg... so even if their ED says less than 13% (about 1 in 8 kids accepted), it's really harder than that
Anonymous
11/21/2023 14:15
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 10% of the class at my kid's Big3 applied ED to Duke. Many are legacy, all are smart.
So you're saying at least 5% of your Big 3 has legacy at Duke? Seems pretty absurd, but maybe makes sense since their parents probably earned a lot after attending Duke.
The legacy at these privates is absurd. I'd say 60% of the class has legacy at one Ivy or another (given two parents per child). Probably 5% at Duke (with a bunch of overlap with the Ivies--one parent Duke alum, one parent an Ivy alum).
Actually I think it may be higher for Duke--more like 10%.
Remember, some of the Big3 only have 75 kids per class. I know at least 5 kids with Duke legacy out of 75 kids and that's just from the families I know well. That's already 7.5%.
You've basically admitted you're talking about STA.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 14:10
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think 10% of the class at my kid's Big3 applied ED to Duke. Many are legacy, all are smart.
So you're saying at least 5% of your Big 3 has legacy at Duke? Seems pretty absurd, but maybe makes sense since their parents probably earned a lot after attending Duke.
The legacy at these privates is absurd. I'd say 60% of the class has legacy at one Ivy or another (given two parents per child). Probably 5% at Duke (with a bunch of overlap with the Ivies--one parent Duke alum, one parent an Ivy alum).
Actually I think it may be higher for Duke--more like 10%.
Remember, some of the Big3 only have 75 kids per class. I know at least 5 kids with Duke legacy out of 75 kids and that's just from the families I know well. That's already 7.5%.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 14:06
Subject: Re:Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court decision has emboldened Whites and Asians to apply to great schools because their race now won’t hurt their admission chances. Also, kids are looking for strong academics, not wokeness gone wrong. That’s why Duke has a surge of ED and Yale doesn’t. Also, folks are tired of NE provincialism.
ED schools will likely see more of a boost than REA schools. That is a big difference between Duke and Yale.
Why? There's no specific reason for ED over REA, and historically REA has been a much more popular option due to the nonbinding nature.
I would assume ED in general (not for PP's reason) will continue to grow in popularity because the standard for admission is perceived to be lower than for EA or RD. If you think your only chance of getting into a group of schools is ED, then having the optionality from REA is pointless
There's no reason for that to happen this year only and not in previous years, ED and REA have been the same for decades. The more I'm searching online, the more I believe this is largely specific to Duke this year. I don't believe any other ivy will be posting a 30% increase in early applicants, especially given Yale only had a 1% increase.
There's a possibility that Penn or Brown get close to that level of a surge in ED applicants, but I agree the rest won't. Maybe Cornell too as an option that people feel are "attainable."
Anonymous
11/21/2023 14:04
Subject: Re:Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court decision has emboldened Whites and Asians to apply to great schools because their race now won’t hurt their admission chances. Also, kids are looking for strong academics, not wokeness gone wrong. That’s why Duke has a surge of ED and Yale doesn’t. Also, folks are tired of NE provincialism.
ED schools will likely see more of a boost than REA schools. That is a big difference between Duke and Yale.
Why? There's no specific reason for ED over REA, and historically REA has been a much more popular option due to the nonbinding nature.
I would assume ED in general (not for PP's reason) will continue to grow in popularity because the standard for admission is perceived to be lower than for EA or RD. If you think your only chance of getting into a group of schools is ED, then having the optionality from REA is pointless
There's no reason for that to happen this year only and not in previous years, ED and REA have been the same for decades. The more I'm searching online, the more I believe this is largely specific to Duke this year. I don't believe any other ivy will be posting a 30% increase in early applicants, especially given Yale only had a 1% increase.
Anonymous
11/21/2023 14:01
Subject: Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!
Anonymous wrote:I think 10% of the class at my kid's Big3 applied ED to Duke. Many are legacy, all are smart.
So you're saying at least 5% of your Big 3 has legacy at Duke? Seems pretty absurd, but maybe makes sense since their parents probably earned a lot after attending Duke.