Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
It is terrible and you are absolutely right that it does zero for the players long term…It just makes the results more palatable. BRAVE teams have a combined 28 wins in 96 matches, so there is a lot more losing going on than winning.
Is that the girls side or both? What about Union, Arlington, NVA and VDA? How many wins on their girls side in comparison?
No one is saying Brave is the best around, at least I think, but it seems that some of the teams have outperformed expectations.
And if their terrible strategy does not develop players then surely by U16 (2008) these other teams with their superior styles should be running circles around these undeveloped girls right? Or do these other clubs need one more year to prove they develop (recruit) the best?
BRAVE parents. Haha.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
It is terrible and you are absolutely right that it does zero for the players long term…It just makes the results more palatable. BRAVE teams have a combined 28 wins in 96 matches, so there is a lot more losing going on than winning.
Is that the girls side or both? What about Union, Arlington, NVA and VDA? How many wins on their girls side in comparison?
No one is saying Brave is the best around, at least I think, but it seems that some of the teams have outperformed expectations.
And if their terrible strategy does not develop players then surely by U16 (2008) these other teams with their superior styles should be running circles around these undeveloped girls right? Or do these other clubs need one more year to prove they develop (recruit) the best?
If you strictly want to look at points per game from U13-U19 on the girls side through the current year, it would look like this... Brave still cradled at the bottom.
1. NVA - 1.95
2. Union - 1.73
3. VDA - 1.62
4. ARL - 1.23
5. Brave - 1.20
Many more games to be played.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
It is terrible and you are absolutely right that it does zero for the players long term…It just makes the results more palatable. BRAVE teams have a combined 28 wins in 96 matches, so there is a lot more losing going on than winning.
Is that the girls side or both? What about Union, Arlington, NVA and VDA? How many wins on their girls side in comparison?
No one is saying Brave is the best around, at least I think, but it seems that some of the teams have outperformed expectations.
And if their terrible strategy does not develop players then surely by U16 (2008) these other teams with their superior styles should be running circles around these undeveloped girls right? Or do these other clubs need one more year to prove they develop (recruit) the best?
If you strictly want to look at points per game from U13-U19 on the girls side through the current year, it would look like this... Brave still cradled at the bottom.
1. NVA - 1.95
2. Union - 1.73
3. VDA - 1.62
4. ARL - 1.23
5. Brave - 1.20
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
It is terrible and you are absolutely right that it does zero for the players long term…It just makes the results more palatable. BRAVE teams have a combined 28 wins in 96 matches, so there is a lot more losing going on than winning.
Is that the girls side or both? What about Union, Arlington, NVA and VDA? How many wins on their girls side in comparison?
No one is saying Brave is the best around, at least I think, but it seems that some of the teams have outperformed expectations.
And if their terrible strategy does not develop players then surely by U16 (2008) these other teams with their superior styles should be running circles around these undeveloped girls right? Or do these other clubs need one more year to prove they develop (recruit) the best?
If you strictly want to look at points per game from U13-U19 on the girls side through the current year, it would look like this... Brave still cradled at the bottom.
1. NVA - 1.95
2. Union - 1.73
3. VDA - 1.62
4. ARL - 1.23
5. Brave - 1.20
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
It is terrible and you are absolutely right that it does zero for the players long term…It just makes the results more palatable. BRAVE teams have a combined 28 wins in 96 matches, so there is a lot more losing going on than winning.
Is that the girls side or both? What about Union, Arlington, NVA and VDA? How many wins on their girls side in comparison?
No one is saying Brave is the best around, at least I think, but it seems that some of the teams have outperformed expectations.
And if their terrible strategy does not develop players then surely by U16 (2008) these other teams with their superior styles should be running circles around these undeveloped girls right? Or do these other clubs need one more year to prove they develop (recruit) the best?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
It is terrible and you are absolutely right that it does zero for the players long term…It just makes the results more palatable. BRAVE teams have a combined 28 wins in 96 matches, so there is a lot more losing going on than winning.
Is that the girls side or both? What about Union, Arlington, NVA and VDA? How many wins on their girls side in comparison?
No one is saying Brave is the best around, at least I think, but it seems that some of the teams have outperformed expectations.
And if their terrible strategy does not develop players then surely by U16 (2008) these other teams with their superior styles should be running circles around these undeveloped girls right? Or do these other clubs need one more year to prove they develop (recruit) the best?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
It is terrible and you are absolutely right that it does zero for the players long term…It just makes the results more palatable. BRAVE teams have a combined 28 wins in 96 matches, so there is a lot more losing going on than winning.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).
Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.
I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.
He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.
Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.
The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.
The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.
With the VYS talent, Brave is doing better than bryc has in many years. MV’s track record of college placement will make Brave the preferred ecnl choice in the va metro area. Just look at the results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.
He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.
Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.
The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.
The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.
With the VYS talent, Brave is doing better than bryc has in many years. MV’s track record of college placement will make Brave the preferred ecnl choice in the va metro area. Just look at the results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.
He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.
Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.
The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.
The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.
This is only Brave’s 2nd year. He (along with VK) trained the 10s and 8s prior to Brave forming. He also trained about half of the current ECRL girls (who didn’t make Brave).
I feel like just about every club in Nova has been accused of playing kick and run on DCUM. The 09s may be doing this, but that year has, unfortunately, been snake bitten since the very beginning. Their best player pre-ECNL was a 10 who moved back to her age group last year.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.
He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.
Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.
The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.
The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.
With the VYS talent, Brave is doing better than bryc has in many years. MV’s track record of college placement will make Brave the preferred ecnl choice in the va metro area. Just look at the results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.
He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.
Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.
What is MV’s record of college placement?
The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.
The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.
With the VYS talent, Brave is doing better than bryc has in many years. MV’s track record of college placement will make Brave the preferred ecnl choice in the va metro area. Just look at the results.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.
He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.
Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.
The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.
The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.
He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.
Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.
The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.
The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.