Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 19:13     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


2 DD’s. One received and one will receive free college education thanks to showcases they missed school for.


Full College Scholarships on the Boys Side for Soccer are rare and limited.


It’s not about the money for the boys (there is barely any). But it can get you into a college you might otherwise not have gotten into (gives you an edge similar to other extra curriculars). If you are good enough it pushes you over the line assuming you meet a minimum standard for the school. If the goal is college support, showcases aren’t any different than debate tournaments that kids miss school for.


My kids stuck with getting the grades and scores- so they had the stats to apply anywhere. This also pushes you above the line of other players of sane skill. Hey coach- I have straight As and a 36 ACT.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 18:57     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


2 DD’s. One received and one will receive free college education thanks to showcases they missed school for.


Full College Scholarships on the Boys Side for Soccer are rare and limited.


It’s not about the money for the boys (there is barely any). But it can get you into a college you might otherwise not have gotten into (gives you an edge similar to other extra curriculars). If you are good enough it pushes you over the line assuming you meet a minimum standard for the school. If the goal is college support, showcases aren’t any different than debate tournaments that kids miss school for.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 18:54     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
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Anonymous wrote:My son's team is playing in a tournament this weekend... starting Friday morning! Why in the world would they schedule a tournament then? Do high schoolers skip classes to play soccer?! It's one thing to get out a little early but this is a full day of school! It really is hard to catch up in high school. How many of these tournaments are there?!


Yes they do miss school. And use the excuse letter. My hs asks for it and makes it an excused absence.


So does ours. Especially college showcases. Band trips get excused why not athletic trips that help with college progress?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 16:08     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
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Anonymous wrote:Daughter misses about 1.5 weeks a year for ECNL. I wish it wasn't like this, regarding their education. Wish all parents would stand up against it but I'm as guilty as all the other parents who put up with it.

How much school do college players miss? Do we as a society care about kids and education?


College players usually miss a couple of classes/days for competitions while they're in season. Not too many if they avoid scheduling classes late in the day/on Fridays, but sometimes it's unavoidable. The absence is generally "excused" as a it's a university-sponsored event... same as if they were traveling with the marching band or another official group representing the university. Students missing class for university events are supposed to provide professors with the event schedule at the beginning of the semester and come up with a plan to make up the work before they leave or soon after they return (whatever the professor decides). They can't be penalized for not attending class on those dates.

Professors have to fill out progress reports for student-athletes. If an athlete is missing a bunch of classes beyond what's in the competition schedule they provided, that gets reported. The student athlete support office does not want kids failing classes, as it can make them ineligible to compete.


Professors care about attendance? I understand not missing tests and assignments, but if the student is getting their work done and passing their exams, why would a professor care if they miss a random class every now and then?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 16:02     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
If playing in college isn't the end game, can kids skip showcases or show up only for the games that don't conflict with school? Anyone have experience with that and how was it received by coach (and player)?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 15:07     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


This doesn't make sense. Not all kids on academy make it to the pros. My kid misses school for soccer, but does the work. This is kind of like saying everyone should be in the office because no one can telework. My kid is great at making sure to keep up grades at school. Not a big deal.


Not all kids at Any Academy in the World make it to Pros. Not even Man City or Real Madrid Academy.
However, the odds are Highest and Most Likely in the favor of kids at a Professional Club Academy to become a professional player than kids who are not.

Feel free to pull-up the roster of any Division 1 professional team in Europe or England and look at "Youth Career" of players.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 14:27     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


This doesn't make sense. Not all kids on academy make it to the pros. My kid misses school for soccer, but does the work. This is kind of like saying everyone should be in the office because no one can telework. My kid is great at making sure to keep up grades at school. Not a big deal.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 14:04     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Anonymous wrote:12 signings does not equal full scholarships on the girls side


Oh- I know. But, at least they had signings. That was my point--even if the boys are willing to full pay, there are almost no spots/no signings.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:55     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
12 signings does not equal full scholarships on the girls side
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 12:34     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


2 DD’s. One received and one will receive free college education thanks to showcases they missed school for.


Full College Scholarships on the Boys Side for Soccer are rare and limited.


Extremely rare. It’s so different for boys and girls.

There can be zero comparison. It’s extremely extremely hard to even get a spot that you have to pay for.

It’s been said time and time again- girls are t competing with big level Football and Basketball the schools’ main $ makers, nor do they have the degree of international players and older rosters/transfers.


Yeah- this year girls team same age group had 12 signings from top schools; boys 1 signing low academic school
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 12:27     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
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Anonymous wrote:It's rare. One year my u10 was in an alexandria or Arlington tournament and the game was between 3-5pm on a Friday so he had to leave school a little early for that with evening traffic. All local tournaments try and put local teams games on Friday if needed instead of out of town teams.


U10?????

Try high school recruiting years on ECNL and MLSNext level teams. My 17-year old is headed to Phoenix for the first week in December. Missing this Friday for a 10am game. Had a showcase in Atlanta early January.

The younger one is missing a Friday for a Charlotte showcase in 2 weeks and then it’s 4-5 other days for a showcase in Florida and a couple trips to NC & SC with Friday travel days.

The higher the level team and age—the more travel.


I said "one year". My then u10 is now older and yes in December he is missing 3 days for an out of state tournament. I’m with you.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 12:23     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


2 DD’s. One received and one will receive free college education thanks to showcases they missed school for.


Full College Scholarships on the Boys Side for Soccer are rare and limited.


Extremely rare. It’s so different for boys and girls.

There can be zero comparison. It’s extremely extremely hard to even get a spot that you have to pay for.

It’s been said time and time again- girls are t competing with big level Football and Basketball the schools’ main $ makers, nor do they have the degree of international players and older rosters/transfers.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 11:47     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


2 DD’s. One received and one will receive free college education thanks to showcases they missed school for.


Full College Scholarships on the Boys Side for Soccer are rare and limited.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 11:40     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Anonymous wrote:Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.


2 DD’s. One received and one will receive free college education thanks to showcases they missed school for.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 11:32     Subject: Skipping School for Soccer?
Kids at MLS Professional Club Academies like Philly Union, LA Galaxy, NY Red Bulls etc missing a couple days school (with tutoring to makeup) where it's free and no travel expenses makes sense.

If you're on pay-to-play team and have to miss school, foot travel expenses and take time off from work and other hassles, a bit too much.