Anonymous wrote:Ask the principal. At many center schools, there is no principal placement but some principals at some center schools do.

Principals can only place if there is room to do so. If the classes are already too big to support additional students, principals won't place any additional student into the level 4 program. If there is room, they do it if they think the kid deserves to be in level 4.

Anonymous wrote:At Center school, only level 4 kids can be in aap classroom. The principal placement can only happen non-center school.

This is not true. Principal Placement happens at Center schools also, but for the home school base population.

you can ask to be evaluated but filling out the referral forms for both level IV and level III
if your child struggles in math they will have a hard time in level iv or advanced math without extra help. What grade is your child in ?

I am not OP, but I came here in researching a similar question. We came from a different school system and I really can’t figure out if I should refer my child for level 4 AAP or just level 3. She definitely excels at core subjects, but has some challenge in math because they were in a different math curriculum previously.

Am I allowed to write the school and say we welcome your evaluating our child for AAP level four? I don’t feel qualified to understand if my child would be appropriate for level four. I definitely feel confident in everything but the math section and on that, I am just ignorant as I’m not an educator in this system. I attended the information session and the main focus was telling us that we’re not allowed to ask the teachers if they think our child would qualify. This FCPS process is very confusing.

Be on the PTA and contribute $$$. That's how all the kids at our school got principal placed. Chair the fundraisers and your kid is in!! Easy.

Anonymous wrote:My 6th grader is at an AAP center and she had several new kids move to our center from their base schools this year. I have no idea whether they were found eligible earlier and just now decided to move to the center or if they tried multiple times. I found it interesting though.

Lemon Road?

My 6th grader is at an AAP center and she had several new kids move to our center from their base schools this year. I have no idea whether they were found eligible earlier and just now decided to move to the center or if they tried multiple times. I found it interesting though.

I heard testing recently doesn’t include reading areas to improve inclusive approach. Is that true?

Anonymous wrote:Hello All - My kid is in fifth grade (currently in level III AAP ) at " Level IV center school "I have been trying for level IV AAP since 2nd grade ,
COGAt - 99%
Sol - Advance Pass
Iready -Reading - 97%,Math - 93% .
Have all 4's in Progress report
I spoke to her teacher during Parent Teacher Conference and she has mentioned that she completes most of her work and she is already providing her with some advanced sheets . I have been hearing ,parents requesting for Level IV Placements and also were succcessful.
I was wondering if parents can request ? Is there been a process in place ?

Anonymous wrote:As I already mentioned the kid is already in level III .Its just 1 hour pullout weekly and in my kids level III they are discussing some random topics . In level IV they do advance math at my school . I feel level III doesnt add any value to the "advanced ".
The teacher and the AART in my school are not friendly they deny to meet with you for any discussion . Totally frustrated with the school.Im not in financial position to move to other private school .

Ours read a book and used it to discuss various topics and complete assignments.

As I already mentioned the kid is already in level III .Its just 1 hour pullout weekly and in my kids level III they are discussing some random topics . In level IV they do advance math at my school . I feel level III doesnt add any value to the "advanced ".
The teacher and the AART in my school are not friendly they deny to meet with you for any discussion . Totally frustrated with the school.Im not in financial position to move to other private school .

Anonymous wrote:I have few kids gone through four referral process and went through I dont see the point in how many referral process . Each year the kid is progressing and have done lot of enrichment programs outside the school . Also I mentioned that there has been Placement happening in our school thats how I came to know about the process,but the parents are not completely transparent about the process so I just know there is been process in place .

This is why some LL4 aren’t doing principal place any more and are doing clusters. With principal placing it just ends up being about who is the pushiest with the principal or being in the know about asking - and then people think they need to be eligible at middle school and transportation costs get out of control.

Have you asked about what AAP materials your student is using instead of asking about a label? That might get you more useful information.

Anonymous wrote:Hello All - My kid is in fifth grade (currently in level III AAP ) at " Level IV center school "I have been trying for level IV AAP since 2nd grade ,
COGAt - 99%
Sol - Advance Pass
Iready -Reading - 97%,Math - 93% .
Have all 4's in Progress report
I spoke to her teacher during Parent Teacher Conference and she has mentioned that she completes most of her work and she is already providing her with some advanced sheets . I have been hearing ,parents requesting for Level IV Placements and also were succcessful.
I was wondering if parents can request ? Is there been a process in place ?

Are there a lot of other students with similar scores to your daughter? If so, that is probably why. Id ask the teacher what aap is happening in her current classroom. Those resources are available to all k-6 teachers.

Anonymous wrote:If a kid who has scored 93-99th percentile with straight 4s isn't placed in aap, then something is seriously broken. I'd be pissed. Of course your child is losing interest. This is insane.

It totally depends. Are there a lot of kids with those scores at the school? If there are, they don’t need a label/different place - they are served where they are with other students with similar needs. This is part of the whole shift to local norming, including a lot more AAP in standard classes and not just in full-time, and trying to focus on what student needs and not a label. The parent meetings at my kid’s school said this multiple times last year and this year.

Anonymous wrote:At the center schools, kids can take advanced math and not be in full time AAP. Talk to the teacher about doing this.

Advanced math is available at all FCPS elementary schools, outside of full time AAP (not just center schools). That’s a subject specific service —— in math specifically.

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Anonymous wrote:Similar story, both my children who were going into 5th and 7th grades got in last year. I did not appeal the years prior. I will say that my younger student was able to be in the Level IV classroom in the fourth grade (he was level III). His teacher informed me that she was referring him for Level IV and then he got in. I have no idea why they were unable to get in the program before.

Easy one, just need to make a larger donation on Teacher Appreciation Week.

Or become the PTA president or another important board member, and make large donations to the school.

Literally NONE of the children of PTA board members at our ES are in the AAP classes.

This is an accurate representation of our school as well. Many on the PTA board and other highly active members have SPED kids, which makes sense. Because their kids are more difficult on average to deal with, out of guilt they try to make it up by being more involved in the school. They also get the benefit of being in the classrooms and looking out for their kids more often.

That's not the case at my kids' school. The PTA parents are just regular parents and their kids are just regular kids. This year, the ones with 3rd-6th graders don't have kids in AAP. It's not particularly competitive, everyone's happy.