Anonymous
11/10/2023 08:37
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
And many schools also have a preferred sub list. We would rather contact someone we know is good rather than leave it to chance. If no one on our preferred sub list can do it, we post on the sub system. If that's not picked up, our administrators and secretaries contact systemwide subs or ask people to cover in-house.
It's upsetting that they're such a sub shortage. With all the people on this forum, maybe some of you can sign up to sub!
They need to pay more than $20/hour. It’s insulting and not a living wage. It’s gross that people think this is okay.
+1
This. I've considered subbing. I am a good teacher and need flexible work, but I won't sub for $20 an hour. It needs to be more than that. I can get other work that is easier and just as flexible for $25 to $45 an hour.
The sub rates are negotiated by the union. Why doesn't the union push for higher sub rates? $20 per hour is ridiculous and just means that teachers will lose planning periods to sub.
Because after all the anti-racist audits, leader in me SEL training, and electric busses, there just isn't anything left.
Anonymous
11/10/2023 08:35
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
Correct. Teachers do not have to find their own sub. Submit your leave slip for approval, create the system request, create your sub plans.
Please name your school where you weren’t harassed for taking leave without a sub. I’m looking to transfer.
All of them but yours apparently.
Anonymous
11/10/2023 07:49
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. This is why I come into work sick with fever, strep, colds, bronchitis, pneumonia and whatever strikes me at the time. I wear a mask and go to work. Isn't that what they told teachers to do during covid?
You mean during the 2 years you worked from home?
Nice try. It wasn’t even one full year. Educate yourself.
It was almost exactly one year. The last quarter of 2019-2020 and the first three quarters of 2020-2021. -NP
Lol again...ALMOST ONE year isn't even close to the two years the previous poster claimed. That is the point. And it still wasn't a full year...yes, it came CLOSE.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 22:51
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
And many schools also have a preferred sub list. We would rather contact someone we know is good rather than leave it to chance. If no one on our preferred sub list can do it, we post on the sub system. If that's not picked up, our administrators and secretaries contact systemwide subs or ask people to cover in-house.
It's upsetting that they're such a sub shortage. With all the people on this forum, maybe some of you can sign up to sub!
They need to pay more than $20/hour. It’s insulting and not a living wage. It’s gross that people think this is okay.
+1
This. I've considered subbing. I am a good teacher and need flexible work, but I won't sub for $20 an hour. It needs to be more than that. I can get other work that is easier and just as flexible for $25 to $45 an hour.
The sub rates are negotiated by the union. Why doesn't the union push for higher sub rates? $20 per hour is ridiculous and just means that teachers will lose planning periods to sub.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 22:49
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. This is why I come into work sick with fever, strep, colds, bronchitis, pneumonia and whatever strikes me at the time. I wear a mask and go to work. Isn't that what they told teachers to do during covid?
You mean during the 2 years you worked from home?
Nice try. It wasn’t even one full year. Educate yourself.
It was almost exactly one year. The last quarter of 2019-2020 and the first three quarters of 2020-2021. -NP
Anonymous
11/09/2023 21:08
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
Correct. Teachers do not have to find their own sub. Submit your leave slip for approval, create the system request, create your sub plans.
Please name your school where you weren’t harassed for taking leave without a sub. I’m looking to transfer.
not the poster you are responding to but i have had multiple administrators and never had leave denied. I’ve worked for some principals who tried to bully people over taking a day without a sub assigned to the job. We had a well established staff that was not easily intimidated and knew their rights so it got the principal nowhere. They learned pretty quickly that we were taking the leave regardless of whether or not they “approved” it.
Can you name the school? I really need to move to some place sane.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 20:59
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
I like how they make sick teachers work at home instead of rest and the teachers at school are punished by having their classes disrupted. The kicker is principals will write bad reviews about the teachers if the learning environment and classroom management are out of control and that goes in their permanent file.
This profession is not recommended if you want basic human dignity and respect.
This profession is not recommended if you want basic human dignity and respect.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 20:16
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
Correct. Teachers do not have to find their own sub. Submit your leave slip for approval, create the system request, create your sub plans.
Please name your school where you weren’t harassed for taking leave without a sub. I’m looking to transfer.
not the poster you are responding to but i have had multiple administrators and never had leave denied. I’ve worked for some principals who tried to bully people over taking a day without a sub assigned to the job. We had a well established staff that was not easily intimidated and knew their rights so it got the principal nowhere. They learned pretty quickly that we were taking the leave regardless of whether or not they “approved” it.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 20:14
Subject: Re:As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:This post should be removed because this is 100 percent inaccurate information. MCPS does not require teachers to find their own sub. To the sub who said they have teachers call her, yes, if I like a sub and she does a great job with following the plans and caring for the kids, and keeping the room clean then we may reach out to that specific sub to reserve him or her but it is not a requirement. Shame on OP
I am not sure why you are trying to shame me. I receive calls/emails on a daily basis from teachers looking for a sub because either they are sick or their children are sick. I legitimately feel bad that they have this added stress to their job. And it is not just one or two schools. This at the elementary school level.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 19:20
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. This is why I come into work sick with fever, strep, colds, bronchitis, pneumonia and whatever strikes me at the time. I wear a mask and go to work. Isn't that what they told teachers to do during covid?
You mean during the 2 years you worked from home?
Oh, grow up. DP
Anonymous
11/09/2023 19:19
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
Correct. Teachers do not have to find their own sub. Submit your leave slip for approval, create the system request, create your sub plans.
Please name your school where you weren’t harassed for taking leave without a sub. I’m looking to transfer.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 19:18
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
I'm in MCPS and it depends on your admin. Technically, you should just be able to put your leave slip in. But some admin will be pissed if you don't have someone lined up or if that person cancels when you have personal leave. For long term leave they highly encourage you to find someone on your own.
In my daughter's school they have been breaking up the class to put them in other teacher's rooms when there is not a sub available.
In my daughter's school they have been breaking up the class to put them in other teacher's rooms when there is not a sub available.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 18:35
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
And many schools also have a preferred sub list. We would rather contact someone we know is good rather than leave it to chance. If no one on our preferred sub list can do it, we post on the sub system. If that's not picked up, our administrators and secretaries contact systemwide subs or ask people to cover in-house.
It's upsetting that they're such a sub shortage. With all the people on this forum, maybe some of you can sign up to sub!
They need to pay more than $20/hour. It’s insulting and not a living wage. It’s gross that people think this is okay.
+1
This. I've considered subbing. I am a good teacher and need flexible work, but I won't sub for $20 an hour. It needs to be more than that. I can get other work that is easier and just as flexible for $25 to $45 an hour.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 18:32
Subject: Re:As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:This post should be removed because this is 100 percent inaccurate information. MCPS does not require teachers to find their own sub. To the sub who said they have teachers call her, yes, if I like a sub and she does a great job with following the plans and caring for the kids, and keeping the room clean then we may reach out to that specific sub to reserve him or her but it is not a requirement. Shame on OP
Depends on the school. It might not be contractually correct, but some principals definitely pressure their teachers to find their own subs and tell the teacher they will not approve their leave request if they don't have one. Of course those are also the schools that teachers actively try to leave during transfer season. Like in all things, MCPS does nothing to protect the teachers.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 18:28
Subject: As a parent and a sub, I feel bad teachers have to find their own substitutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcps teacher here. There is an online sub system. You login, create an absence and hope a sub takes the job. Other than writing sub plans, your job is done. I’ve been in the county for a long time and have never been denied leave or been harassed for not having a sub. Is this really a problem countywide?
No but there are a few posters who are obsessed with finding fault. It seems like they resent tpublic schools and are intent on spreading their unhappiness
Yes, teachers do not need to find a sub. The poster clearly doesn't work for MCPS.
Some schools tell teachers that they cannot take personal leave unless they find a sub. If the sub cancels, they expect the teacher to cancel the leave. As a result, some teachers call in sick or pretend that they had a doctor's appointment. Don't know if the principals are allowed to do this, but the teachers are afraid that the admin will retaliate if they question it.