Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
Have the parents of these specific kids come to Westover?
If the kids have been identified, Tramonte can reach out to those parents directly and say “We have a problem, be part of the solution or next time I press charges.” But just asking them to show up? Won’t happen for so many reasons.
If he really meant that any SMS parents should come to Westover after school lets out, that’s a whole other problem. The parents who would show up to “help” with community enforcement are likely the last ones you’d want in the middle of this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
But calling the police in will guarantee getting the parents involved.
This clearly isn't a one-time deal. The kids repeatedly do it. If it doesn't stop after the principal identifying them, I would call the police. The kids need a genuine scare and their parents need a little wake-up call.
This. It’s repeatedly happening. Parents and kids need to know it has to stop. Whether it’s restitution, community service or whatever counts as juvenile detention these days. The repeated crimes indicate a pattern that needs to be broken before it escalates.
It should start with good old fashioned measures: face-to-face apology to the store owner and employees, cleaning up the egg mess they made, and uncompensated work hours at the store with no food benefits.
This requires parent buy-in or legal reprecussions.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
But calling the police in will guarantee getting the parents involved.
This clearly isn't a one-time deal. The kids repeatedly do it. If it doesn't stop after the principal identifying them, I would call the police. The kids need a genuine scare and their parents need a little wake-up call.
This. It’s repeatedly happening. Parents and kids need to know it has to stop. Whether it’s restitution, community service or whatever counts as juvenile detention these days. The repeated crimes indicate a pattern that needs to be broken before it escalates.
It should start with good old fashioned measures: face-to-face apology to the store owner and employees, cleaning up the egg mess they made, and uncompensated work hours at the store with no food benefits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
But calling the police in will guarantee getting the parents involved.
This clearly isn't a one-time deal. The kids repeatedly do it. If it doesn't stop after the principal identifying them, I would call the police. The kids need a genuine scare and their parents need a little wake-up call.
This. It’s repeatedly happening. Parents and kids need to know it has to stop. Whether it’s restitution, community service or whatever counts as juvenile detention these days. The repeated crimes indicate a pattern that needs to be broken before it escalates.
Anonymous wrote:Do they “bus” students in from other parts of the county? If not, are there section 8 or other low income residents in that school district?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
But calling the police in will guarantee getting the parents involved.
This clearly isn't a one-time deal. The kids repeatedly do it. If it doesn't stop after the principal identifying them, I would call the police. The kids need a genuine scare and their parents need a little wake-up call.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but the kids who did this are not former McK kids.
Not particularly debating whether some of those kids are a-holes. Just inconvenient facts pertaining to this situation.
DP - To be fair, former McK is the neighborhood surrounding Swanson & Westover, so it's a logical first guess. The question I want to know is if they are headed to W&L or YHS.
W&L
No one knows that. The odds are equal between W&L, YHS or private for high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
I thought he had the right idea. Have the parents come see what their kids are going and/or deter them.
Calling the police is outsourcing parenting. It's the last thing to do, not the first.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but the kids who did this are not former McK kids.
Not particularly debating whether some of those kids are a-holes. Just inconvenient facts pertaining to this situation.
DP - To be fair, former McK is the neighborhood surrounding Swanson & Westover, so it's a logical first guess. The question I want to know is if they are headed to W&L or YHS.
W&L
No one knows that. The odds are equal between W&L, YHS or private for high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but the kids who did this are not former McK kids.
Not particularly debating whether some of those kids are a-holes. Just inconvenient facts pertaining to this situation.
DP - To be fair, former McK is the neighborhood surrounding Swanson & Westover, so it's a logical first guess. The question I want to know is if they are headed to W&L or YHS.
W&L
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The restaurant owner has asked the parents to come by during the afternoons. He has said he thinks that is the solution. (Also, the principal came by, saw the video, and identified the students. So they are known.)
The parents of these little felons or random community members that are supposed to act as community law enforcement? The Tramontes are great people but asking the community to act instead of calling 911 to arrest these kids is not an answer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but the kids who did this are not former McK kids.
Not particularly debating whether some of those kids are a-holes. Just inconvenient facts pertaining to this situation.
DP - To be fair, former McK is the neighborhood surrounding Swanson & Westover, so it's a logical first guess. The question I want to know is if they are headed to W&L or YHS.