Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.
Wharton or nothing ... lol
At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.
Wharton or nothing ... lol
At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.
My niece graduated with an undergraduate degree in business from "not Wharton" this year. Her concentration was sustainability, which is an emerging/growing field, and she landed a really terrific job. My nephew will be graduating next year (from Kelley), and has his job in hand, after his summer internship. They had no connections, but are both smart, motivated kids with strong work ethic, that actually busted their chops to land good internships, which then led to their jobs.
I'll put in a plug for Kelley. The size seems intimidating at first, but there are so many ways to make it feel like home and most students are very friendly in my experience. In fact, I always see the same people over and over again on campus, in the area of town with all the bars (Kirkwood), etc. Lots of resources at your fingertips if you know how to navigate everything well and what to focus more on academically, socially, professionally, etc. You have to dabble in all 3 at some point in college, but they ebb and flow at different times. Subtle plug/for example: sophomore year is the hardest year of college in my opinion because the slump is real, especially mental health wise, so if they get off to a good start freshman year, they're golden.
While connections can be important, I came into Kelley from square one (none of my parents did business) and not being from one of the venerable Chicago or Indianapolis area feeder schools. Yet I'll be working in private investing full in the Bay Area post-grad making 6 figures. If the kid finds a school where they will graduate with little to no debt, comes in and does what they need to do from the get-go in terms of getting good grades (>3.3), rushes a Greek organization to meet people whose parents are in leadership positions and make friends who they can have a fun time with Thursday-Satuday (and no other day, of course), joins industry-related clubs, finds somewhat business-related jobs as an underclassman so they can secure that juicy Junior internship and have the hard skills to turn that into a full-time return offer that leans towards their interests, gets to know professors, puts themselves out there strategically at career fairs/using the career center at their school (which doesn't get you jobs but helps facilitate the exploration process), it can for certain be done. From that point, they'll move on to a Top 10 MBA program after 3-4 years of various work experiences. From there, they're golden. It may seem vain and different from what college is portrayed to be, but business is strictly pre-professional. It may be blunt but this is the playbook.
Transferring and hoping to get into Kelley is very hard. Once you get into IU you have to essentially get all A’s to apply to Kelley. Also you can only have a certain amount of credits. Read the process very carefully.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.
Wharton or nothing ... lol
At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.
My niece graduated with an undergraduate degree in business from "not Wharton" this year. Her concentration was sustainability, which is an emerging/growing field, and she landed a really terrific job. My nephew will be graduating next year (from Kelley), and has his job in hand, after his summer internship. They had no connections, but are both smart, motivated kids with strong work ethic, that actually busted their chops to land good internships, which then led to their jobs.
I'll put in a plug for Kelley. The size seems intimidating at first, but there are so many ways to make it feel like home and most students are very friendly in my experience. In fact, I always see the same people over and over again on campus, in the area of town with all the bars (Kirkwood), etc. Lots of resources at your fingertips if you know how to navigate everything well and what to focus more on academically, socially, professionally, etc. You have to dabble in all 3 at some point in college, but they ebb and flow at different times. Subtle plug/for example: sophomore year is the hardest year of college in my opinion because the slump is real, especially mental health wise, so if they get off to a good start freshman year, they're golden.
While connections can be important, I came into Kelley from square one (none of my parents did business) and not being from one of the venerable Chicago or Indianapolis area feeder schools. Yet I'll be working in private investing full in the Bay Area post-grad making 6 figures. If the kid finds a school where they will graduate with little to no debt, comes in and does what they need to do from the get-go in terms of getting good grades (>3.3), rushes a Greek organization to meet people whose parents are in leadership positions and make friends who they can have a fun time with Thursday-Satuday (and no other day, of course), joins industry-related clubs, finds somewhat business-related jobs as an underclassman so they can secure that juicy Junior internship and have the hard skills to turn that into a full-time return offer that leans towards their interests, gets to know professors, puts themselves out there strategically at career fairs/using the career center at their school (which doesn't get you jobs but helps facilitate the exploration process), it can for certain be done. From that point, they'll move on to a Top 10 MBA program after 3-4 years of various work experiences. From there, they're golden. It may seem vain and different from what college is portrayed to be, but business is strictly pre-professional. It may be blunt but this is the playbook.
Transferring and hoping to get into Kelley is very hard. Once you get into IU you have to essentially get all A’s to apply to Kelley. Also you can only have a certain amount of credits. Read the process very carefully.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.
Wharton or nothing ... lol
At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.
My niece graduated with an undergraduate degree in business from "not Wharton" this year. Her concentration was sustainability, which is an emerging/growing field, and she landed a really terrific job. My nephew will be graduating next year (from Kelley), and has his job in hand, after his summer internship. They had no connections, but are both smart, motivated kids with strong work ethic, that actually busted their chops to land good internships, which then led to their jobs.
I'll put in a plug for Kelley. The size seems intimidating at first, but there are so many ways to make it feel like home and most students are very friendly in my experience. In fact, I always see the same people over and over again on campus, in the area of town with all the bars (Kirkwood), etc. Lots of resources at your fingertips if you know how to navigate everything well and what to focus more on academically, socially, professionally, etc. You have to dabble in all 3 at some point in college, but they ebb and flow at different times. Subtle plug/for example: sophomore year is the hardest year of college in my opinion because the slump is real, especially mental health wise, so if they get off to a good start freshman year, they're golden.
While connections can be important, I came into Kelley from square one (none of my parents did business) and not being from one of the venerable Chicago or Indianapolis area feeder schools. Yet I'll be working in private investing full in the Bay Area post-grad making 6 figures. If the kid finds a school where they will graduate with little to no debt, comes in and does what they need to do from the get-go in terms of getting good grades (>3.3), rushes a Greek organization to meet people whose parents are in leadership positions and make friends who they can have a fun time with Thursday-Satuday (and no other day, of course), joins industry-related clubs, finds somewhat business-related jobs as an underclassman so they can secure that juicy Junior internship and have the hard skills to turn that into a full-time return offer that leans towards their interests, gets to know professors, puts themselves out there strategically at career fairs/using the career center at their school (which doesn't get you jobs but helps facilitate the exploration process), it can for certain be done. From that point, they'll move on to a Top 10 MBA program after 3-4 years of various work experiences. From there, they're golden. It may seem vain and different from what college is portrayed to be, but business is strictly pre-professional. It may be blunt but this is the playbook.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.
Wharton or nothing ... lol
At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.
My niece graduated with an undergraduate degree in business from "not Wharton" this year. Her concentration was sustainability, which is an emerging/growing field, and she landed a really terrific job. My nephew will be graduating next year (from Kelley), and has his job in hand, after his summer internship. They had no connections, but are both smart, motivated kids with strong work ethic, that actually busted their chops to land good internships, which then led to their jobs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Accounting ensures a high-paying job.
“Business” is a ticket to an entry level sales position.
Top salesmen make way more than accountants.
Anonymous wrote:Accounting ensures a high-paying job.
“Business” is a ticket to an entry level sales position.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless someone is razor focused on business and can get into Wharton, business is a very limiting major for undergrad.
Wharton or nothing ... lol
At many universities, business is a very easy major and many of the so-called "athletes" major in business. In this major, It comes down to "connections". In other words, it is about "who you know". It is very hard to get a good paying job with a business major unless you have "connections". I am sure you will see folks jump in here and say that they get good paying jobs without hooks but those are exceptions rather than the rule.
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown
BC
Villanova
Fordham
Providence
Elon
Ithaca
NYU
Bentley
BU
Northeastern
Tulane
Bucknell
Anonymous wrote:May I suggest that she stay put, keep her current major path, work for three years, and then just go get an mba in business and really top school?
For most business jobs, you really don’t need to transfer, you just need entry-level experience. If she gets high grades at this “less than” school, and gets internships but has whatever major, she can really jump right into consulting or whatever she needs to do as her initial business career.
Anonymous wrote:Indiana University Kelley School of Business (IU over 15,000 students) has about 10,200 undergrads.