Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:16
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Cool, then they can deal with her silly entitlement while OP can go on to hire an actual professional.
You think there are plenty of "actual professional" nannies that want to work 15 hours a week in the afternoon plus random, non consistent extra hours?
It doesn’t sound like OP needs a “professional nanny” (whatever that means). She needs a semi competent teen/adult who is willing to hang out in her home with her elementary school aged kids for a couple of hours on average a day and maybe give them a snack in exchange for $30/hour. I’m confident she can find someone who fits the bill without blackmailing her for more money.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:14
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
But that's not OP's problem. OP (presumably) needs reliable childcare. If nanny feels disrespected and quits, it's none of OP's concern whether or not she ever works again.
Agree 100%. my point is that $30/hr for a person with no degree or specialty qualifications is an extremely generous rate and OP shouldn’t give in to pressure by other posters (probably other child care providers trying to drive up prices) warning that she should give into this sitter’s ridiculous demands for fear that she’ll otherwise quit.
Ok, so OP should be clear that she expects the nanny to work extra, non contracted hours, at regular rate-even though the nanny has been clear that she wants time and a half for these hours. OP should not be surprised when nanny quits or declines the extra hours.
NP I don’t think you have any idea how retail and restaurants work, if you think it’s standard for untrained, uneducated workers to be able to demand set schedules that remain consistent week to week. You are actually the one in a bubble here. $30 per hour is more than generous.
I'd think OP values the care and safety of her children over her latte...but maybe not?
Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:12
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
this. and the young woman is also taking advantage of the guaranteed hours! the guarantee of 15 is a *benefit* to her - no other PT job will guarantee a base number of hours. that she’s trying to turn this into an overtime claim is either incredibly entitled or ignorant.
Right, because lots of people want to just set aside their afternoons every single day on the off chance they might get paid to work.
Talk to people in fast casual places and Starbucks, and you’ll find that’s exactly what they do.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:11
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
But that's not OP's problem. OP (presumably) needs reliable childcare. If nanny feels disrespected and quits, it's none of OP's concern whether or not she ever works again.
Agree 100%. my point is that $30/hr for a person with no degree or specialty qualifications is an extremely generous rate and OP shouldn’t give in to pressure by other posters (probably other child care providers trying to drive up prices) warning that she should give into this sitter’s ridiculous demands for fear that she’ll otherwise quit.
Ok, so OP should be clear that she expects the nanny to work extra, non contracted hours, at regular rate-even though the nanny has been clear that she wants time and a half for these hours. OP should not be surprised when nanny quits or declines the extra hours.
NP I don’t think you have any idea how retail and restaurants work, if you think it’s standard for untrained, uneducated workers to be able to demand set schedules that remain consistent week to week. You are actually the one in a bubble here. $30 per hour is more than generous.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:10
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Not for $30 per hour plus, 1.5x above 15.
No one said that the new family would need more than their contracted guaranteed hours. Nor that their guaranteed hours would only be 15.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:07
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Not for $30 per hour plus, 1.5x above 15.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:06
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
this. and the young woman is also taking advantage of the guaranteed hours! the guarantee of 15 is a *benefit* to her - no other PT job will guarantee a base number of hours. that she’s trying to turn this into an overtime claim is either incredibly entitled or ignorant.
If I were OP and kept her on, I would make sure to get my 15 weekly hours. No more freebie paid hours. I’d find some sort of childcare need to fill that time I’m paying for.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 15:04
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:I am extremely generous with paying nannies and babysitters, and expecting overtime under 40 hrs is absurd.
+1. $45/hour is egregious for part time work. And the fact she just expected it and was ballsy enough to accuse OP of not paying enough 6 weeks in would be such a turn off to me as an employer. What other terms is this employee going to try to twist to her benefit? Goodbye.
And yes I know PT help can be harder than FT, but $30 is competitive enough to not deal with this.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 14:49
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
this. and the young woman is also taking advantage of the guaranteed hours! the guarantee of 15 is a *benefit* to her - no other PT job will guarantee a base number of hours. that she’s trying to turn this into an overtime claim is either incredibly entitled or ignorant.
Right, because lots of people want to just set aside their afternoons every single day on the off chance they might get paid to work.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 14:46
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
this. and the young woman is also taking advantage of the guaranteed hours! the guarantee of 15 is a *benefit* to her - no other PT job will guarantee a base number of hours. that she’s trying to turn this into an overtime claim is either incredibly entitled or ignorant.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 14:44
Subject: Overtime pay?
I am extremely generous with paying nannies and babysitters, and expecting overtime under 40 hrs is absurd.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 14:41
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
But that's not OP's problem. OP (presumably) needs reliable childcare. If nanny feels disrespected and quits, it's none of OP's concern whether or not she ever works again.
Agree 100%. my point is that $30/hr for a person with no degree or specialty qualifications is an extremely generous rate and OP shouldn’t give in to pressure by other posters (probably other child care providers trying to drive up prices) warning that she should give into this sitter’s ridiculous demands for fear that she’ll otherwise quit.
Ok, so OP should be clear that she expects the nanny to work extra, non contracted hours, at regular rate-even though the nanny has been clear that she wants time and a half for these hours. OP should not be surprised when nanny quits or declines the extra hours.
She really shouldn't have to "be clear". This is how life works.
Not according to OP's nanny. In that nanny's life, the extra hours get paid time and a half. Who needs who more in this situation?
Anonymous
10/21/2023 14:40
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Cool, then they can deal with her silly entitlement while OP can go on to hire an actual professional.
You think there are plenty of "actual professional" nannies that want to work 15 hours a week in the afternoon plus random, non consistent extra hours?
Anonymous
10/21/2023 14:34
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
But that's not OP's problem. OP (presumably) needs reliable childcare. If nanny feels disrespected and quits, it's none of OP's concern whether or not she ever works again.
Agree 100%. my point is that $30/hr for a person with no degree or specialty qualifications is an extremely generous rate and OP shouldn’t give in to pressure by other posters (probably other child care providers trying to drive up prices) warning that she should give into this sitter’s ridiculous demands for fear that she’ll otherwise quit.
Ok, so OP should be clear that she expects the nanny to work extra, non contracted hours, at regular rate-even though the nanny has been clear that she wants time and a half for these hours. OP should not be surprised when nanny quits or declines the extra hours.
She really shouldn't have to "be clear". This is how life works.
Anonymous
10/21/2023 14:34
Subject: Overtime pay?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone else will snatch her up quickly after she quits.
Unless this woman is Mary Poppins I find it unlikely that there will be loads of people clamoring to pay 30-45/ hour for a babysitter with a healthy dose of entitlement and flawed sense of logic.
The way OP's contract is now, nanny is only guaranteed 15 hours per week at $30-so $450/week. Obviously that is not enough to live on, so Nanny doesn't NEED this money. Maybe she's a college student or has a wealthy spouse or...who knows what...but she's not going to put up with what she perceives to be unfair treatment (regardless of whether or not that's correct, it's what she perceives) for $450/week.
Assuming she is a college student or similar I wish her luck in finding a part time job that accommodates her school hours and pays more than $30/ hour (likely tax free) without a degree or any specialized credentials.
But that's not OP's problem. OP (presumably) needs reliable childcare. If nanny feels disrespected and quits, it's none of OP's concern whether or not she ever works again.
Agree 100%. my point is that $30/hr for a person with no degree or specialty qualifications is an extremely generous rate and OP shouldn’t give in to pressure by other posters (probably other child care providers trying to drive up prices) warning that she should give into this sitter’s ridiculous demands for fear that she’ll otherwise quit.
Ok, so OP should be clear that she expects the nanny to work extra, non contracted hours, at regular rate-even though the nanny has been clear that she wants time and a half for these hours. OP should not be surprised when nanny quits or declines the extra hours.
Yes and Nanny shouldn’t be surprised when she is unable to find another gravy train and ends up working at a fast food joint for half the pay.
I would be shocked if that happened. Nannies willing to work after school hours are incredibly hard to find. She will have other offers.