Anonymous
10/16/2023 08:00
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Business is one of the biggest majors at WM, and it’s a decent program. It’s not as well known as some other big business school names, but I’d hire a WM undergrad business degree any day.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 01:25
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would you submit SAT for the following schools:
UVA
W&M
VA Tech
White male, Business major. (Pre business for uva).
I know these are reach schools btw.
Based on <50 percentile I would not, but 1380 is in the 92nd percentile overall and I don’t want them to think it’s like an 1100 if he doesnt submit.
He will be competitive at all of them.
What do you base this on?
Experience. Acceptances of my own two white kids, albeit from LCPS. Similar numbers.
UVA may depends on course rigor and other intangibles and how they construct class rank (I know FCPS doesn’t rank, but believe be the admissions offices do and UVa wants top 10%). Similar for W&M (although why W&M for business?). VT the supplementals matter but the numbers are a stronger fit. Demonstrated interest with admissions counselor assigned to VT also helps.
My two were 3-for-3 with these schools with 1420 and 1150 and 4.66 and 3.98 weighted, respectively.
Why not W&M for business?
Anonymous
10/16/2023 00:24
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
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Anonymous
10/16/2023 00:21
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only reason to submit is because the GPA is low so it doesn’t hurt. But if you had a 4.5 + and a 1380 SAT or 31 ACT you shouldn’t because it would be weak compared to the GPA.
Actually a 1380 is equal to a 30 ACT
But the bottom 25th percentile of last year's incoming class reports having a 32. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:45
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nice non-judgmental thread..
DC has 3.75 weighted (3.25 UW), 1500 SAT, 10APs, 2 post APs (CS), 1 DE.
We just plugged in stats into college vine and it told us that DS has no Reaches. VT is on his list (Collegevine says it's a match) and he's not interested in W&M. Is UVA a possibility at all as a reach or is it just a wasted app? ED maybe?
I don't know of a UVA admit below a 4.4 weighted GPA last year.
I do know of a 4.3 ED denied.
ED isn’t an advantage at UVA.
point is 4.4 GPA minimum for UVA
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:43
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
UVA NOVA unhooked male 3.96/4.52, 1560, 9 APs, 3 post-AP, 4y Foreign lang, NMSF=waitlisted (engineering)
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:38
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:The only reason to submit is because the GPA is low so it doesn’t hurt. But if you had a 4.5 + and a 1380 SAT or 31 ACT you shouldn’t because it would be weak compared to the GPA.
Actually a 1380 is equal to a 30 ACT
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:37
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
The only reason to submit is because the GPA is low so it doesn’t hurt. But if you had a 4.5 + and a 1380 SAT or 31 ACT you shouldn’t because it would be weak compared to the GPA.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:34
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nice non-judgmental thread..
DC has 3.75 weighted (3.25 UW), 1500 SAT, 10APs, 2 post APs (CS), 1 DE.
We just plugged in stats into college vine and it told us that DS has no Reaches. VT is on his list (Collegevine says it's a match) and he's not interested in W&M. Is UVA a possibility at all as a reach or is it just a wasted app? ED maybe?
I don't know of a UVA admit below a 4.4 weighted GPA last year.
I do know of a 4.3 ED denied.
ED isn’t an advantage at UVA.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:30
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nice non-judgmental thread..
DC has 3.75 weighted (3.25 UW), 1500 SAT, 10APs, 2 post APs (CS), 1 DE.
We just plugged in stats into college vine and it told us that DS has no Reaches. VT is on his list (Collegevine says it's a match) and he's not interested in W&M. Is UVA a possibility at all as a reach or is it just a wasted app? ED maybe?
I don't know of a UVA admit below a 4.4 weighted GPA last year.
I do know of a 4.3 ED denied.
Agree. No chance at UVA if from Nova
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:20
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Nice non-judgmental thread..
DC has 3.75 weighted (3.25 UW), 1500 SAT, 10APs, 2 post APs (CS), 1 DE.
We just plugged in stats into college vine and it told us that DS has no Reaches. VT is on his list (Collegevine says it's a match) and he's not interested in W&M. Is UVA a possibility at all as a reach or is it just a wasted app? ED maybe?
have you not read any of the rest of this thread? Not with that GPA
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:15
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Nice non-judgmental thread..
DC has 3.75 weighted (3.25 UW), 1500 SAT, 10APs, 2 post APs (CS), 1 DE.
We just plugged in stats into college vine and it told us that DS has no Reaches. VT is on his list (Collegevine says it's a match) and he's not interested in W&M. Is UVA a possibility at all as a reach or is it just a wasted app? ED maybe?
I don't know of a UVA admit below a 4.4 weighted GPA last year.
I do know of a 4.3 ED denied.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:05
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Nice non-judgmental thread..
DC has 3.75 weighted (3.25 UW), 1500 SAT, 10APs, 2 post APs (CS), 1 DE.
We just plugged in stats into college vine and it told us that DS has no Reaches. VT is on his list (Collegevine says it's a match) and he's not interested in W&M. Is UVA a possibility at all as a reach or is it just a wasted app? ED maybe?
DC has 3.75 weighted (3.25 UW), 1500 SAT, 10APs, 2 post APs (CS), 1 DE.
We just plugged in stats into college vine and it told us that DS has no Reaches. VT is on his list (Collegevine says it's a match) and he's not interested in W&M. Is UVA a possibility at all as a reach or is it just a wasted app? ED maybe?
Anonymous
10/15/2023 20:45
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:For WM, the GPA is below 25%, SAT is 25-50%. I’d submit the scores. Even better if you can superscore it up a bit. But to stand a shot at getting in, your kid needs to ED, demonstrate interest like crazy, interview and take the supplemental app seriously. I has a white female get in ED with a similar GPA but 75% ACTs and the above strategy. Your kids scores are lower, but male applicants have an advantage at WM. So, it’s possible.
Neither the GPA nor the SAT are competitive for an unhooked white kid RD. That’s just reality. So many of DD’s friends 8in the 4.3-4-4 range and SATs at or near 34/1500 were locked out RD. They do seem to value high test scores. But 1380 isn’t really that high for WM
Also, DD was just home for fall break, and was talking about the trials and travails of her friends applying for the “B school” (she is not applying). DD did just declare an IR/ Global Studies double major. Both also required application but it was an informal— you’re on track with your language, passed the intro Econ classes, passed the Gov gate class, you may proceed type thing. Mostly to ensure the pre-recs were there to graduate on time and the double major was realistic.
The business school is not that. It’s competitive admission sophomore year, I think you get two shots, once each semester sophomore year (if you come in with APs and have the pre-recs to declare fall of sophomore year). Then, it’s transfer or declare a major like Econ.
Demand outpaces supply for Business school seats, and kids getting into WM, getting “goods grades’” and not getting in to the Business school is a real problem.
Now, “good grades” is subjective. So when parents or my kid says kids aren’t getting in with good grades, who knows what GPA that is. But, it’s definitely happening.
Some business school are direct admit going in. Honestly, I don’t love how WM does it but my knowledge is based mostly on freaked out parents on the parents page and chatting with my kid. So, be aware going in that getting a WM admit and getting “good grades” in the pre-recs does not guarantee acceptance into the Business school.
His junior year GPA is below 25%, which means that he'll likely be above 25% at the point of graduation. The SAT is below 25% but a quarter of the people who report their scores get in under the 25% mark.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 20:39
Subject: Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps
Anonymous wrote:Would you submit SAT for the following schools:
UVA
W&M
VA Tech
White male, Business major. (Pre business for uva).
I know these are reach schools btw.
Based on <50 percentile I would not, but 1380 is in the 92nd percentile overall and I don’t want them to think it’s like an 1100 if he doesnt submit.
For uva—doesn’t matter because he won’t get in with that gpa.