Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:45
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:I love it. Teach Teacher here.
Folks are saying only the cheater should be punished -- well yeah. But this is how the teacher figures out who that is.
Why the hell would she assume EVERY child knows?
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:44
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Dumb idea on the teacher's part. The teacher can't do that, and the kid (or kids) who cheated have absolutely no incentive to come forward. The teacher's only hope of maintaining credibility is a snitch.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:42
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:every educator should know collective punishment is prohibited.Anonymous wrote:Collective punishment is banned in most school districts and grading usually has standard set by the county. I would report the teacher and then tell your kid to tell you if the teacher does anything and then report them again for retaliation
This has caused unnecessary stress to students and parents.
Marking threats to students to execute an illegal act should not cause the teachers removal but it should cause some type of disciplinary action.
This is intimidation.
This is child neglect.
This is educational malpractice.
Best response as pointed out already is to retest everyone.
At my son's private, teacher found a cheat sheet. The whole class had daily detention until someone confessed. Zero parents complained. Just letting you know not everyone feels like you do.
Giving detention to a whole class is not the same thing as changing a grade that will be used to determine whether or not they can get into college.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:28
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Teacher should give another test that is open book, open notes and see how they do.
As one of my college professors said to me, "if you find a book that can help you with my tests, I want to see that book."
As one of my college professors said to me, "if you find a book that can help you with my tests, I want to see that book."
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:04
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Omg suing the teacher? Are you for real? Cheating is very bad. This teacher clearly put the fear in all of them. I suspect it all will work out in the end. Let it be.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:46
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:every educator should know collective punishment is prohibited.Anonymous wrote:Collective punishment is banned in most school districts and grading usually has standard set by the county. I would report the teacher and then tell your kid to tell you if the teacher does anything and then report them again for retaliation
This has caused unnecessary stress to students and parents.
Marking threats to students to execute an illegal act should not cause the teachers removal but it should cause some type of disciplinary action.
This is intimidation.
This is child neglect.
This is educational malpractice.
Best response as pointed out already is to retest everyone.
At my son's private, teacher found a cheat sheet. The whole class had daily detention until someone confessed. Zero parents complained. Just letting you know not everyone feels like you do.
Another moron. Detention doesn't impact college admissions. This 0 will. It is unfair to expect innocent students to suffer like this.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:44
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:I love it. Teach Teacher here.
Folks are saying only the cheater should be punished -- well yeah. But this is how the teacher figures out who that is.
Moron. No one will come forward. Teachers have tried this since the beginning of time, and it's never worked. Kids don't appreciate being unjustly treated, so it always backfires on the teacher.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:43
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:If a cheat sheet is going to help a kid that much with a physics test, maybe the test isn't hard enough. When I took physics in high school and college we were usually allowed to bring in a sheet of paper with formulas, etc because the goal was to make sure we understood and could apply what we had learned. It's not like actual physicists are doing their jobs from memory.
+1
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:43
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:I love it. Teach Teacher here.
Folks are saying only the cheater should be punished -- well yeah. But this is how the teacher figures out who that is.
*Team* Teacher
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:43
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
I love it. Teach Teacher here.
Folks are saying only the cheater should be punished -- well yeah. But this is how the teacher figures out who that is.
Folks are saying only the cheater should be punished -- well yeah. But this is how the teacher figures out who that is.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:43
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
I would complain directly to the Principal. If you know other parents of kids in that class, contact them to do the same (or post on the listserv, stay factual, not judgy).
In a test-optional environment, GPA is the number 1 criteria by which colleges and universities judge students. So no, this cannot be allowed to happen.
What the teacher should do is create a new test for this unit. S/he doesn't want to do that because it's more work, but that's what they'll have to do if they want to assess the students fairly.
In a test-optional environment, GPA is the number 1 criteria by which colleges and universities judge students. So no, this cannot be allowed to happen.
What the teacher should do is create a new test for this unit. S/he doesn't want to do that because it's more work, but that's what they'll have to do if they want to assess the students fairly.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:41
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love that teacher. How refreshing.
If the teacher goes through with the threat, they deserve to be fired and sued if any of those grade effect transcripts
+100
Anonymous
10/11/2023 15:38
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
If a cheat sheet is going to help a kid that much with a physics test, maybe the test isn't hard enough. When I took physics in high school and college we were usually allowed to bring in a sheet of paper with formulas, etc because the goal was to make sure we understood and could apply what we had learned. It's not like actual physicists are doing their jobs from memory.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 12:04
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:every educator should know collective punishment is prohibited.Anonymous wrote:Collective punishment is banned in most school districts and grading usually has standard set by the county. I would report the teacher and then tell your kid to tell you if the teacher does anything and then report them again for retaliation
This has caused unnecessary stress to students and parents.
Marking threats to students to execute an illegal act should not cause the teachers removal but it should cause some type of disciplinary action.
This is intimidation.
This is child neglect.
This is educational malpractice.
Best response as pointed out already is to retest everyone.
At my son's private, teacher found a cheat sheet. The whole class had daily detention until someone confessed. Zero parents complained. Just letting you know not everyone feels like you do.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 11:38
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if he found the cheat sheet AND the kids’ responses on the test make it clear most of them used it. I could see that being grounds for a 0 as a threat but ultimately the most he will be able to do per the grading policy is give them all a retake (and he will definitely make it harder) and if he finds out who the instigator was, the original 0 for that kid stands and the retake goes in as well, which means even if the kid gets a 100 on the retake it’ll average to a 50. (That is the official policy for handling academic dishonesty.)
-LCPS teacher
My child tends to get 100s on math tests even in high school. So her having a perfect score would indicate nothing. I would be IRATE if she were accused of cheating based upon this and no other evidence. I'm also well-versed in the LCPS grading policy and not a doormat, so this is unlikely to happen to us.