Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 19:58     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Links to that happening recently in DC.


It happens every week, all over the country. People are fatigued by the constant stream of incidents of excessive use of force. Police departments owe it to communities to do better and rebuild trust.


Great, then it shouldn't be hard for you to post an instance of it happening in DC in the last week.

But, you didn't. Because you are wrong. Get off twitter and into the real world dude. Most police are great people, contrary to what the DSA tells you.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 19:18     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.


Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.


Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.


That was the first time I've posted it. Probably others have as well. Because it's actually talking about the intention behind defunding the police. Which, you know, was communicated by leaders of that movement and has been well-circulated by media and institutions who give enough of a shit to listen to the movement's leaders rather than the fox news talking points you apparently are jerking off to at night.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 19:16     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Yes, you are in that situation. And no one is excusing that type of behavior.

But you have cops that have had their lives ruined for shooting a girl who was about to stab someone to death, like the officer who shot Ma’Khia Bryant.

If you can’t not have your name dragged through the mud and fight for your life and career in court for shooting someone who was a millisecond away from stabbing a girl with a knife, why would you even bother trying to prevent crimes before they happen by doing proactive policing?


So you admit they are not doing their jobs?

Lay them off and hire private security. Why are we approving budget-busting police budgets? If they ain’t gonna do sh#t because they are pissy about some event that happened across the country, then send them home for good.


Yes because private security guards will do a better job


Hire private security guards? So only the rich are able to have protection? The rest of us just deal, I suppose?

And these guards, I assume, have MORE training than police?

What a ridiculous suggestion. For the “police deserve bad treatment” poster, put down social media and actually walk into a police department. Why don’t you get a first-hand look at what they are dealing with instead of letting social media tell you what to think?

Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 19:16     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Links to that happening recently in DC.


It happens every week, all over the country. People are fatigued by the constant stream of incidents of excessive use of force. Police departments owe it to communities to do better and rebuild trust.


+100, gun violence and crime in general is up everywhere. This is likely related to the long closured from COVID affecting people's mental health. Also financial circumstances that people experienced. Lots of people slid further down the economic pole.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 19:08     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when you flood the country with cheap guns.

You can’t police or prosecute your way out of dumb young men getting free access to firearms.


“Cheap guns.” What are those. Guns don’t cost what an automobile does, but they’re hardly “cheap.”

“Dumb young men.” Over 21? Not prohibited by criminal history or something else? Because if not they can’t legally buy a gun.

“Free access.” Hardly. Especially in DC there are multiple hurdles to get over for a lawful purchase, and unlawful purchases already are, well, unlawful.

Do you have any grounds beyond your own politically-driven assumption to assert that whatever guns were used here were (1) cheap; (2) legally purchased; (3) used by a person of subnormal intelligence; or (4) obtained “freely,” whatever that means?


DP... Only a person of subnormal intelligence would be making assertions that guns being used in DC crimes are being legally purchased or that the criminals getting them really have that many hurdles to getting guns. Dude, in DC, 13 year olds are running around with illegal Glocks. That is not "politics" - that is reality. The reality is that this country is flooded with illegal guns - which were originally bought legally by supposed "responsible gun owners" and "good guys with guns" who turned out to be anything but - such that there are hundreds of thousands of guns flowing into the underground black market every year via straw buyers, private sales, and so on. Our weak-as-hell system of "gun control" is what allows this to happen.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 19:01     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Links to that happening recently in DC.


It happens every week, all over the country. People are fatigued by the constant stream of incidents of excessive use of force. Police departments owe it to communities to do better and rebuild trust.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:46     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Crime is out of control and it's concerning the mayor doesn't care at.all. people are voting with their feet.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:42     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:Many people are scared to go out in DC in the evenings just for a simple dinner/date night. The mayor is screaming about the end of telework but doesn’t have a single plan for shootings , murder and other crime.



This so clearly the care here is for money and not lives.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:41     Subject: Re:3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a shame, The Wharf is a beautiful area, with luxury housing, dining and The Anthem. Navy Yard has baseball, soccer, restaurants and shopping. Have to weigh up risks, re: recreation, dining, with kids, with visiting family or colleagues.




The Point is not at Navy Yard or the Wharf; it's on Buzzard's point. And as horrible as this is, it's not going to make me wary of going to any of those places.


Great! Enjoy your relaxing meals.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:39     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when you flood the country with cheap guns.

You can’t police or prosecute your way out of dumb young men getting free access to firearms.


“Cheap guns.” What are those. Guns don’t cost what an automobile does, but they’re hardly “cheap.”

“Dumb young men.” Over 21? Not prohibited by criminal history or something else? Because if not they can’t legally buy a gun.

“Free access.” Hardly. Especially in DC there are multiple hurdles to get over for a lawful purchase, and unlawful purchases already are, well, unlawful.

Do you have any grounds beyond your own politically-driven assumption to assert that whatever guns were used here were (1) cheap; (2) legally purchased; (3) used by a person of subnormal intelligence; or (4) obtained “freely,” whatever that means?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:38     Subject: Re:3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:It's a shame, The Wharf is a beautiful area, with luxury housing, dining and The Anthem. Navy Yard has baseball, soccer, restaurants and shopping. Have to weigh up risks, re: recreation, dining, with kids, with visiting family or colleagues.




The Point is not at Navy Yard or the Wharf; it's on Buzzard's point. And as horrible as this is, it's not going to make me wary of going to any of those places.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:16     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Links to that happening recently in DC.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:12     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Yes, you are in that situation. And no one is excusing that type of behavior.

But you have cops that have had their lives ruined for shooting a girl who was about to stab someone to death, like the officer who shot Ma’Khia Bryant.

If you can’t not have your name dragged through the mud and fight for your life and career in court for shooting someone who was a millisecond away from stabbing a girl with a knife, why would you even bother trying to prevent crimes before they happen by doing proactive policing?


So you admit they are not doing their jobs?

Lay them off and hire private security. Why are we approving budget-busting police budgets? If they ain’t gonna do sh#t because they are pissy about some event that happened across the country, then send them home for good.


Yes because private security guards will do a better job
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 14:52     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Yes, you are in that situation. And no one is excusing that type of behavior.

But you have cops that have had their lives ruined for shooting a girl who was about to stab someone to death, like the officer who shot Ma’Khia Bryant.

If you can’t not have your name dragged through the mud and fight for your life and career in court for shooting someone who was a millisecond away from stabbing a girl with a knife, why would you even bother trying to prevent crimes before they happen by doing proactive policing?


So you admit they are not doing their jobs?

Lay them off and hire private security. Why are we approving budget-busting police budgets? If they ain’t gonna do sh#t because they are pissy about some event that happened across the country, then send them home for good.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 14:50     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

This is what happens when you flood the country with cheap guns.

You can’t police or prosecute your way out of dumb young men getting free access to firearms.