Anonymous
10/19/2023 18:49
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
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I don’t think this is what happened because it wouldn’t make sense for them to not just say that’s what happened.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they haven't charged anyone with the wife's murder, then Ryan did it.
No, they specifically said that the details of who stabbed Christine is still under investigation, and that they’re still looking into electronic/phone records to understand why Ryan was there in the first place.
Can someone with a legal or criminal justice background explain why she would have been charged with second-degree murder instead of manslaughter? Arent self-defense type crimes usually filed as manslaughter? Like an in the moment passion thing?
Second degree murder is malice but not pre-planning. But why would you think it was self defense?
Not self defense but I think they’ll say that she walked in on the guy attacking the wife so she shot him. And obviously, if this was true, it should have been the story in the first place. Husband is looking shady af.
I don’t think this is what happened because it wouldn’t make sense for them to not just say that’s what happened.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 18:47
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Why would she have a gun?
Anonymous
10/19/2023 18:42
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Is there any background on the au pair? What country is she from and does her family have money? Will she have a public defender or will the husband pay for a lawyer?
Anonymous
10/19/2023 18:39
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they haven't charged anyone with the wife's murder, then Ryan did it.
No, they specifically said that the details of who stabbed Christine is still under investigation, and that they’re still looking into electronic/phone records to understand why Ryan was there in the first place.
Can someone with a legal or criminal justice background explain why she would have been charged with second-degree murder instead of manslaughter? Arent self-defense type crimes usually filed as manslaughter? Like an in the moment passion thing?
Second degree murder is malice but not pre-planning. But why would you think it was self defense?
Not self defense but I think they’ll say that she walked in on the guy attacking the wife so she shot him. And obviously, if this was true, it should have been the story in the first place. Husband is looking shady af.
It’s baffling. I love true crime but don’t know what to make of this. I don’t see how second degree murder factors in at all!
What does everyone thing went down? Or, what’s the prosecution’s goal with those charges?
Anonymous
10/19/2023 18:32
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they haven't charged anyone with the wife's murder, then Ryan did it.
No, they specifically said that the details of who stabbed Christine is still under investigation, and that they’re still looking into electronic/phone records to understand why Ryan was there in the first place.
Can someone with a legal or criminal justice background explain why she would have been charged with second-degree murder instead of manslaughter? Arent self-defense type crimes usually filed as manslaughter? Like an in the moment passion thing?
Second degree murder is malice but not pre-planning. But why would you think it was self defense?
Not self defense but I think they’ll say that she walked in on the guy attacking the wife so she shot him. And obviously, if this was true, it should have been the story in the first place. Husband is looking shady af.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 18:25
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they haven't charged anyone with the wife's murder, then Ryan did it.
No, they specifically said that the details of who stabbed Christine is still under investigation, and that they’re still looking into electronic/phone records to understand why Ryan was there in the first place.
Can someone with a legal or criminal justice background explain why she would have been charged with second-degree murder instead of manslaughter? Arent self-defense type crimes usually filed as manslaughter? Like an in the moment passion thing?
Second degree murder is malice but not pre-planning. But why would you think it was self defense?
Anonymous
10/19/2023 17:52
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:If they haven't charged anyone with the wife's murder, then Ryan did it.
No, they specifically said that the details of who stabbed Christine is still under investigation, and that they’re still looking into electronic/phone records to understand why Ryan was there in the first place.
Can someone with a legal or criminal justice background explain why she would have been charged with second-degree murder instead of manslaughter? Arent self-defense type crimes usually filed as manslaughter? Like an in the moment passion thing?
Anonymous
10/19/2023 17:50
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Holy crap, the au pair!!???
The summary is:
Two people died in the home. The wife was stabbed and a man was shot.
The husband told police he found the deceased man stabbing his wife and shot him.
The au pair has now been charged with shooting the man.
To add to the summary, Au Pair called 911 from a cell phone and hung up. 10 minutes later, she calls back saying someone was trying to kill her “friend“ then gives the phone to the husband who says he shot a man trying to stab his wife.
Apparently the husband was on his way to work when the au pair called him…who knows what was said…but then he returned home.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 17:38
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
They’re charging her to get her to flip on the husband.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 17:25
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:If they haven't charged anyone with the wife's murder, then Ryan did it.
Disagree, because they haven’t charged the husband with anything yet and he’s at a minimum guilty of lying to the police on the phone right after a double murder which means he’s guilty of a lot more. So there are more charges. They may just be inviting the au pair to take a plea first.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 17:21
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
If they haven't charged anyone with the wife's murder, then Ryan did it.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 17:11
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Link doesn’t work for me. What does it say?
Post link https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/10/19/virginia-nanny-murder-arrest/
Thank you! That’s bananas!
Anonymous
10/19/2023 16:51
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Totally bonkers.
I don’t entirely know what to think except I think the husband refused to talk to the police for a very good reason.
The only scenario I can think of with all four of them in the home is a murder for hire with the ultimate plan being to for the nanny to kill Ryan while he was in the act and thus no witnesses except the husband and Au pair who were hatched the plan. That’s really worded though, I admit.
Sordid-darn auto correct. I’m on my phone.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 16:50
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Totally bonkers.
I don’t entirely know what to think except I think the husband refused to talk to the police for a very good reason.
The only scenario I can think of with all four of them in the home is a murder for hire with the ultimate plan being to for the nanny to kill Ryan while he was in the act and thus no witnesses except the husband and Au pair who were hatched the plan. That’s really worded though, I admit.
I don’t entirely know what to think except I think the husband refused to talk to the police for a very good reason.
The only scenario I can think of with all four of them in the home is a murder for hire with the ultimate plan being to for the nanny to kill Ryan while he was in the act and thus no witnesses except the husband and Au pair who were hatched the plan. That’s really worded though, I admit.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 16:44
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
This is bonkers! I definitely would not have predicted this at all.