Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 22:06     Subject: Re:Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:Every day is shutdown is da gubmint cuz they don’t do nothing anyways.


Well they clearly did not provide you with an education...
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 21:40     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:I’m also picturing a shutdown through the holidays.


Wonderful
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 21:39     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:This is a good time to remind everyone to submit approval requests for outside employment! I sent mine in four weeks ago and haven’t heard about it yet. Anyone else?


How does one do this?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 19:38     Subject: Re:Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:Every day is shutdown is da gubmint cuz they don’t do nothing anyways.


Oh OK. When you have cancer and need novel immunotherapy because chemo/radio aren't working for you, please don't whine that there is none. My husband at NIH apparently does nothing, according to you.

Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 19:36     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:On the last thread I said the shut down wasn't happening and was tasked how do I know and that I have my head in the sand. Lmao I WAS 100% right and I want my 🍪 now!!!

Told you all! But you didn't listen.


Here's your cookie, from a poster on that other thread who was absolutely certain there would be a shutdown!
It's well-earned, PP.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 19:17     Subject: Re:Official November Shutdown Thread
Every day is shutdown is da gubmint cuz they don’t do nothing anyways.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 16:21     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
On the last thread I said the shut down wasn't happening and was tasked how do I know and that I have my head in the sand. Lmao I WAS 100% right and I want my 🍪 now!!!

Told you all! But you didn't listen.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 15:33     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people who want a shutdown to avoid an annoying colleague or get days off kill me. Presumably, if you are a fed with any kind of time in, you have a decent amount of annual leave. You also likely can take sick leave pretty freely.

So use your time off!


The work doesn't stop piling up on when you're away on leave.


DP - I get that things have been hectic across federal agencies, but shutdowns can have really terrible consequences for lower GS feds and government contractors. People who are just starting out aren't going to have much saved. And despite what many people think, entry-level contractors generally aren't making a ton of money--especially those working for firms that do mostly public sector work.

It really drives me crazy when people root for a shutdown because it discounts how negatively it impacts so many people.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:59     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:The people who want a shutdown to avoid an annoying colleague or get days off kill me. Presumably, if you are a fed with any kind of time in, you have a decent amount of annual leave. You also likely can take sick leave pretty freely.

So use your time off!


The work doesn't stop piling up on when you're away on leave.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:58     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:The people who want a shutdown to avoid an annoying colleague or get days off kill me. Presumably, if you are a fed with any kind of time in, you have a decent amount of annual leave. You also likely can take sick leave pretty freely.

So use your time off!


It can be hard to take a lot of leave when big projects are due. Also, to take any decent length of sick leave you have to actually be sick with a doctor's note.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:27     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should I be taking my 130+ hours of use or lose now instead of saving them for the second half of December/early January?

Or do I get an extension on them if a Shutdown prevents me from taking leave? (very likely I would be furloughed)


you should start taking days. if there ends up being another furlough, you may get some of the scheduled leave restored, but that's a whole process and isn't necessarily guaranteed. also your supervisor may not approve a big chunk of leave in the last pay period if you haven't already scheduled it.

if your agency has a leave bank, you should join it during open season. you can always donate use-or-lose leave rather than lose it, and it helps if you get into a bad health situation in the future.


Is a leave bank different from the Voluntary Leave Transfer Program?


yes, VLTP is a directed program to individuals. A leave bank manages the pool of donated leave so you don't have to select individuals and donate directly to them. At my agency the leave bank takes one PP of leave annually for membership and will auto-receive any use or lose that would automatically be lost.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:15     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
The people who want a shutdown to avoid an annoying colleague or get days off kill me. Presumably, if you are a fed with any kind of time in, you have a decent amount of annual leave. You also likely can take sick leave pretty freely.

So use your time off!
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:13     Subject: Re:Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:No, it's not going to happen.

At this point, McCarthy has cast his lot with moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats. So, just like he worked out the bipartisan deal for the CR, he'll do a bipartisan deal for full-year appropriations. He'll bargain and give the Democrats slightly more of what they want than what the moderate Republicans want in exchange for keeping his speakership. The Democrats know that they will never be able to get Jeffries as speaker, so having a moderate Republican who is willing to deal with them is far better than any candidate that Gaetz and the HFC will be able to suggest.

As this point, McCarthy sold his soul to bury the HFC. The HFC is done pulling strings now and the Democrats will get a lot more concessions than they would have ever gotten had the Gaetz and company not sabotaged the Republican party with their party civil war. Had they stuck with McCarthy, they would have gotten a lot more Republican and conservative packages and concessions pushed through, but Gaetz gambled that McCarthy would cave to him and HFC lost. Big.


This.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 08:46     Subject: Re:Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not gonna happen. Everybody blinked with this one. They won't get this close next time.


This. If they got to a CR in October, there's no reason they can't in November. The 2018 shutdown was a Trump anomaly that no one expected even the day or so before it happened.


the only way there will be a November shutdown is if Trump makes a big ruckus about it, McCarthy is successfully outed, and the right-wing media is clamoring for it (possibly by increased rhetoric on border control). but Trump and the right-wing media were pretty quiet this time.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 08:44     Subject: Official November Shutdown Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm never getting my hopes up again.


Me neither. I just wanted a few days to not have to deal with an exhausting colleague. I'm sure this person will be sending me 10 emails tomorrow morning.


Same!!!