Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.

Legal permit carriers weren't involved. The gun control lobby would benefit enormously from a basic understanding of who is committing city crime, the weapons they're using, and where they get them. Seriously, we'll never get real gun control passed as long as people like you keep talking. Stop it.

You CANNOT say for certain that the person/people involved in doing this shooting DID NOT have legal gun permits. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to know such a thing.

Therefore, it is reasonable and logical to acknowledge there is a possibility that this shooter(s) DID HAVE A PERMIT. You cannot refute or dismiss that possibility. Period. Full stop.

The shooter(s) may have had a permit that allowed them to carry a gun, causing this shooting.


Stop with your lies and obfuscations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

“Legal” gun owners deserve scorn, shame and ridicule. They should have to wear signs around their necks letting the public know who they are. Personally, I’d put them in jail for life, but there are just too many of them. So I’ll settle for humiliation and public contempt.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

Legal DC gun owner here. I'd LOVE to see some actual enforcement of existing laws. That seems to be particularly lacking here lately. I'm not sure what new laws would be needed, at least here in the District.

This is two pronged. Existing laws don't really do much about the fact that straw purchase and trafficking is so easy in parts of the country and that is the predominant way that our local criminals obtain their guns. So our local city is flush with guns illegally obtained, in part, because of more lax laws in other parts of the country.

On the other hand, there has been plenty of data posted (I follow DC Crime Facts) about issues with local DC prosecution of criminals - i.e. DC has a high rate of declining to prosecute, offenders are arrested and let go too easily and commit the same crime again within days, DC crime lab remains uncertified which impacts ability to prosecute, and more...

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t we deal with the actual issue which is a cultural problem in the poor communities? Gun laws aren’t going to help because the guns are already here.

Communities that are poor because of redlining and other systemic racism?

People don't turn to crime for fun. They do it when they have no better option.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

Legal DC gun owner here. I'd LOVE to see some actual enforcement of existing laws. That seems to be particularly lacking here lately. I'm not sure what new laws would be needed, at least here in the District.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

“Legal” gun owners deserve scorn, shame and ridicule. They should have to wear signs around their necks letting the public know who they are. Personally, I’d put them in jail for life, but there are just too many of them. So I’ll settle for humiliation and public contempt.

What about illegal gun owners? Do they get a ticker tape parade?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

Anonymous wrote:Two words. Better. Parenting.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.

Legal permit carriers weren't involved. The gun control lobby would benefit enormously from a basic understanding of who is committing city crime, the weapons they're using, and where they get them. Seriously, we'll never get real gun control passed as long as people like you keep talking. Stop it.

You CANNOT say for certain that the person/people involved in doing this shooting DID NOT have legal gun permits. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to know such a thing.

Therefore, it is reasonable and logical to acknowledge there is a possibility that this shooter(s) DID HAVE A PERMIT. You cannot refute or dismiss that possibility. Period. Full stop.

The shooter(s) may have had a permit that allowed them to carry a gun, causing this shooting.


Stop with your lies and obfuscations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

“Legal” gun owners deserve scorn, shame and ridicule. They should have to wear signs around their necks letting the public know who they are. Personally, I’d put them in jail for life, but there are just too many of them. So I’ll settle for humiliation and public contempt.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

“Legal” gun owners deserve scorn, shame and ridicule. They should have to wear signs around their necks letting the public know who they are. Personally, I’d put them in jail for life, but there are just too many of them. So I’ll settle for humiliation and public contempt.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.

Legal permit carriers weren't involved. The gun control lobby would benefit enormously from a basic understanding of who is committing city crime, the weapons they're using, and where they get them. Seriously, we'll never get real gun control passed as long as people like you keep talking. Stop it.

You CANNOT say for certain that the person/people involved in doing this shooting DID NOT have legal gun permits. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to know such a thing.

Therefore, it is reasonable and logical to acknowledge there is a possibility that this shooter(s) DID HAVE A PERMIT. You cannot refute or dismiss that possibility. Period. Full stop.

The shooter(s) may have had a permit that allowed them to carry a gun, causing this shooting.


Stop with your lies and obfuscations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t we deal with the actual issue which is a cultural problem in the poor communities? Gun laws aren’t going to help because the guns are already here.

Communities that are poor because of redlining and other systemic racism?

People don't turn to crime for fun. They do it when they have no better option.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.

There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.

Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.

Legal permit carriers weren't involved. The gun control lobby would benefit enormously from a basic understanding of who is committing city crime, the weapons they're using, and where they get them. Seriously, we'll never get real gun control passed as long as people like you keep talking. Stop it.