Anonymous
09/18/2023 15:13
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous
09/18/2023 14:33
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Any idea why that is the rule? Serious Q.
Because DC is not a state. Same rule applies to US virgins Island and US students overseas.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:36
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
Are you not very good at math? There’s a lot less kids in these privates, about 100 per class.
Fewer?
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:25
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Any idea why that is the rule? Serious Q.
So unfair and one more way DC residents get screwed.
Congrats to these students.
I think they apply based on their residency not where their school is located or is it the opposite?
School location
NMSF depends on the school's address. I think the Presidential Scholars program might depend on your home address.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:18
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Any idea why that is the rule? Serious Q.
So unfair and one more way DC residents get screwed.
Congrats to these students.
I think they apply based on their residency not where their school is located or is it the opposite?
School location
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:17
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Where can I find the breakdown of names between private schools?
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:15
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Any idea why that is the rule? Serious Q.
So unfair and one more way DC residents get screwed.
Congrats to these students.
I think they apply based on their residency not where their school is located or is it the opposite?
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:15
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Any idea why that is the rule? Serious Q.
So unfair and one more way DC residents get screwed.
Probably the opposite. DC has more kids per capita over the “commended” line than Virginia or Maryland (or even New Jersey).
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:10
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Any idea why that is the rule? Serious Q.
So unfair and one more way DC residents get screwed.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 12:02
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Any idea why that is the rule? Serious Q.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 11:50
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
VA has a cut off of 219 vs DC's 223. That's like the difference between getting 2 questions wrong total vs 10.
it's light years easier to get NMSF in VA.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 11:49
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
Are you not very good at math? There’s a lot less kids in these privates, about 100 per class.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 11:30
Subject: Re:2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Seems to be the top 0.5 percent (https://blog.collegevine.com/how-to-qualify-for-the-national-merit-scholarship-program)
If 30 in DC, that implies about 6000 students overall. (That seems to be consistent with that fact that there are about 100,000 kids in public DC schools, implying an average of around 7,000 per grade. But fewer per grade in HS, but there are also private schools.)
It's not a percent for DC. It's the cutoff number for the highest performing state i.e. NJ.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 11:20
Subject: Re:2024_NSMF
Seems to be the top 0.5 percent (https://blog.collegevine.com/how-to-qualify-for-the-national-merit-scholarship-program)
If 30 in DC, that implies about 6000 students overall. (That seems to be consistent with that fact that there are about 100,000 kids in public DC schools, implying an average of around 7,000 per grade. But fewer per grade in HS, but there are also private schools.)
If 30 in DC, that implies about 6000 students overall. (That seems to be consistent with that fact that there are about 100,000 kids in public DC schools, implying an average of around 7,000 per grade. But fewer per grade in HS, but there are also private schools.)
Anonymous
09/18/2023 11:18
Subject: 2024_NSMF
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC
St. Alban’s 5
NCS 2
GDS 1
Sidwell 8
Gonzaga 1
St. Anselm’s Abbey 1
Maret 1
WIS 1
Maryland
Holton 5
Landon 1
Heights 1
Stone Ridge 1
Bullis 2
Virginia
Potomac School 7
St. Stephens/St. Agnes 1
Basis McLean 3
Madeira 1
Wow these are pathetic numbers compare to some of the public schools in FX/MoCo.
NMSFs are essentially the top 1% PSAT scores of each state. I can't comment on the MD or VA schools, but by definition there will never be that many coming from DC because the number of HS PSAT test takers is not changing year-to-year and is relatively small...so the distribution by specific school may change, but the total number of DC NMSFs will always essentially be the same (i.e., around 30...the above list doesn't include kids from Walls, JR, Basis and SJC).
I find the different cutoffs for different states problematic. DC's cutoff is always equal to the state with the highest one, which this year I think was NJ at 223. Virginia's has fallen to 219 I believe. West Virginia was 207?
The 223 makes it hard to compare DC numbers with FFX/ Montgomery County students who had it easier this year.
DC is the only place where 80% of the schools represented are private. I am not surprised if that results in a very high cut-off...combination of high income demographic and again, only 30 kids at any one time in the top 1%.
DC has the highest cut-off because there is a rule that DC automatically gets the cut-off of the highest state which this year is New Jersey with 223. Americans living abroad are given the same cut-off.
It's not because this cohort of DC testers personally scored as the highest in the country.
Imagine how many more NMSF DC would have at just 221 or even 222!