This should have been plastered all over the news. It wasn’t. I wonder why?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]House arrest for life, after some time in prison.

I get by society's standards he will see some incarceration time but let's be honest, this stupid boy spending time with hardened criminals will not help society in the least. [/quote]

Are you insane? Locking up murderers protects society from violence. Duh. House arrest? So he can just walk outside and escape justice? Crazy.[/quote]

You're insane if you think he'll be locked up permanently for a crime committed at 17. He might not even be convicted of Murder 1. [/quote]

He should be tried as an adult for premeditated murder and given life without parole. He has no redeeming qualities.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People like this are not redeemable and we need to stop wasting resources trying to “save” those like him.

Agree completely. This is insane.

+10000000000

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so horrific. Ugh. What is wrong with people?

https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1702826825880129577

You mean what is wrong with people like the poster?

“If you could choose their punishment, what would it be?”

That’s as bad as the behavior of the teens.[b] What is WRONG with people?

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You are what’s wrong with America right now. Saying these teens sound get jailed for life is just as bad as killing another human?!? Sick.

He KILLED a man for NO REASON, FOR FUN! We need to accept that there are just some fundamentally bad people. Not everyone can be fixed. Not everyone has something to offer. What’s wrong with America is this idea that with enough love these people can be repaired which takes resources away from creating an environment in which children aren’t broken in the first place.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver is under 18, there are no serious repercussions for their actions. Juvi for a year, tops.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-teenager-facing-murder-charge-after-intentionally-hitting-bicyclist-with-stolen-car-police-say/

The rest of his life should be ruined. If that cyclist was my family member I'd see to it. While he goes on and lives his life I'd make sure everyone knew/remembered what he did.
If he got married I'd stand outside the church/reception with a huge sign calling him a murderer. If he had kids, I'd find out what school his kids go to and make sure every parent at that school knew what "Billy's dad" did.

Really?

Obviously someone who would think it fun to run over another person has a shortage of empathy. If running over someone didn’t bother them, it is questionable if shaming their kids would either. Meanwhile, whether or not the guilty party was affected, their innocent child who had no part in their parent’s misdeeds, no opportunity to choose their parent, and probably has already suffered from having been raised by that kind of person, would be further harmed by your actions. An adult bullying an innocent child is hardly righteous justice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver is under 18, there are no serious repercussions for their actions. Juvi for a year, tops.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-teenager-facing-murder-charge-after-intentionally-hitting-bicyclist-with-stolen-car-police-say/

The rest of his life should be ruined. If that cyclist was my family member I'd see to it. While he goes on and lives his life I'd make sure everyone knew/remembered what he did.
If he got married I'd stand outside the church/reception with a huge sign calling him a murderer. If he had kids, I'd find out what school his kids go to and make sure every parent at that school knew what "Billy's dad" did.

I definitely understand the sentiment, but I wonder who it hurts more - the perpetually shamed perpetrator, or the perpetual shamer?

I wonder if any of you have ever worked in the criminal justice system, in particular with youth offenders? Or have any of you ever been school teachers?

There is a vast difference between the human brain at 17 and the human brain at 27, or 37, or 47.

Of course the crime is horrific, and nothing will ever sufficiently comfort the family of the victim.

Oh well then. I guess nothing can be done. Remember, vote blue.

Indentured servitude for life. Beyond a small stipend, all wages will go to the family of the victim.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver is under 18, there are no serious repercussions for their actions. Juvi for a year, tops.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-teenager-facing-murder-charge-after-intentionally-hitting-bicyclist-with-stolen-car-police-say/

The rest of his life should be ruined. If that cyclist was my family member I'd see to it. While he goes on and lives his life I'd make sure everyone knew/remembered what he did.
If he got married I'd stand outside the church/reception with a huge sign calling him a murderer. If he had kids, I'd find out what school his kids go to and make sure every parent at that school knew what "Billy's dad" did.

I definitely understand the sentiment, but I wonder who it hurts more - the perpetually shamed perpetrator, or the perpetual shamer?

I wonder if any of you have ever worked in the criminal justice system, in particular with youth offenders? Or have any of you ever been school teachers?

There is a vast difference between the human brain at 17 and the human brain at 27, or 37, or 47.

Of course the crime is horrific, and nothing will ever sufficiently comfort the family of the victim.

he stole a car and purposely ran over a cyclist. perhaps the answer is to keep him in jail until his brain matures at 47.

+100

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver is under 18, there are no serious repercussions for their actions. Juvi for a year, tops.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-teenager-facing-murder-charge-after-intentionally-hitting-bicyclist-with-stolen-car-police-say/

The rest of his life should be ruined. If that cyclist was my family member I'd see to it. While he goes on and lives his life I'd make sure everyone knew/remembered what he did.
If he got married I'd stand outside the church/reception with a huge sign calling him a murderer. If he had kids, I'd find out what school his kids go to and make sure every parent at that school knew what "Billy's dad" did.

I definitely understand the sentiment, but I wonder who it hurts more - the perpetually shamed perpetrator, or the perpetual shamer?

I wonder if any of you have ever worked in the criminal justice system, in particular with youth offenders? Or have any of you ever been school teachers?

There is a vast difference between the human brain at 17 and the human brain at 27, or 37, or 47.

Of course the crime is horrific, and nothing will ever sufficiently comfort the family of the victim.

he stole a car and purposely ran over a cyclist. perhaps the answer is to keep him in jail until his brain matures at 47.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver is under 18, there are no serious repercussions for their actions. Juvi for a year, tops.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-teenager-facing-murder-charge-after-intentionally-hitting-bicyclist-with-stolen-car-police-say/

The rest of his life should be ruined. If that cyclist was my family member I'd see to it. While he goes on and lives his life I'd make sure everyone knew/remembered what he did.
If he got married I'd stand outside the church/reception with a huge sign calling him a murderer. If he had kids, I'd find out what school his kids go to and make sure every parent at that school knew what "Billy's dad" did.

I definitely understand the sentiment, but I wonder who it hurts more - the perpetually shamed perpetrator, or the perpetual shamer?

I wonder if any of you have ever worked in the criminal justice system, in particular with youth offenders? Or have any of you ever been school teachers?

There is a vast difference between the human brain at 17 and the human brain at 27, or 37, or 47.

Of course the crime is horrific, and nothing will ever sufficiently comfort the family of the victim.

I wonder if you have ever been a victim of a criminal, in particular with a youth offender? I really don't give a fruit about their brains.

Anonymous wrote:What needs to happen is that money is given to the people affected. His wife. His kids. They need help to recover. More judges need to order payments to the people directly affected by crimes. The person injured. The person who now doesn't have a husband. Unfortunately people want justice, but the people who experience trauma just want to heal.

Society needs a deterrent to crime. Do you disagree with that?

Anonymous wrote:People like this are not redeemable and we need to stop wasting resources trying to “save” those like him.

Agree completely. This is insane.

What needs to happen is that money is given to the people affected. His wife. His kids. They need help to recover. More judges need to order payments to the people directly affected by crimes. The person injured. The person who now doesn't have a husband. Unfortunately people want justice, but the people who experience trauma just want to heal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver is under 18, there are no serious repercussions for their actions. Juvi for a year, tops.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-teenager-facing-murder-charge-after-intentionally-hitting-bicyclist-with-stolen-car-police-say/

The rest of his life should be ruined. If that cyclist was my family member I'd see to it. While he goes on and lives his life I'd make sure everyone knew/remembered what he did.
If he got married I'd stand outside the church/reception with a huge sign calling him a murderer. If he had kids, I'd find out what school his kids go to and make sure every parent at that school knew what "Billy's dad" did.

I definitely understand the sentiment, but I wonder who it hurts more - the perpetually shamed perpetrator, or the perpetual shamer?

I wonder if any of you have ever worked in the criminal justice system, in particular with youth offenders? Or have any of you ever been school teachers?

There is a vast difference between the human brain at 17 and the human brain at 27, or 37, or 47.

Of course the crime is horrific, and nothing will ever sufficiently comfort the family of the victim.

Anonymous wrote:There are kids living in your neighborhood right now who have violent tendencies. They are seeing this case.

If these LV boys walk, you can expect more violent crime by 17yos near your own homes. It's already happening that minors have figured out that they won't be punished. They are ruining their own lives and those of their victims. Justice is about deterring at-risk youth from ruining their own lives too.

They will walk. And a couple years from now, when they are adults, they will commit more crimes. And we won't even know it's the same boys because as minors, their identities are protected. The criminals get all the rights and the victims get none.