Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 16:00     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

I think we way over did it with COVID protections, I think masking is for 90% of use cases pretty f’ing stupid, schools were closed way too long, COVID fanatics are crazy and annoying, people way over estimate the risk of COVID…

Yet, I think there are some real whack jobs on here with big pharma conspiracy theories and talking about untested vaccines and vaccine injuries.

Get the vaccine, move on. Stop being stupid.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 15:56     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My body, my choice.


And that's completely fine.

You decide whether you want a vaccine with potential consequences that a fairly minor for most, or possibly health disease after Covid.

It's completely up to you.


But it clearly bothers people when they find out in 2023 that there are people who never received any Covid shots. Look at this thread.


Sure, because they want to go back to "normal."

I've just accepted I can't go back to "normal," partially because of all the bat crap crazy antivaxxers and antimaskers.

And now we are going to have evolving Covid strains for a while, because, again, antivaxxers and and antimaskers.

There are people who legitimately can't take vaccines, as well as people who have panic attacks when they try to mask. And you have that freedom not to do those things, but none of us have freedom from the consequences.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 15:36     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Does the Covid vaccine prevent you from getting covid? No
Does the Covid vaccine prevent you from spreading the virus to others? No
Does the vaccine prevent your community from having an outbreak? No
Are there risks from taking the vaccine, including long term issues or death? Yes
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 14:38     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My body, my choice.


And that's completely fine.

You decide whether you want a vaccine with potential consequences that a fairly minor for most, or possibly health disease after Covid.

It's completely up to you.


But it clearly bothers people when they find out in 2023 that there are people who never received any Covid shots. Look at this thread.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 14:38     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think the Vax injuries are as "extremely rare" as you say OP.

I had a severe allergic reaction to my first covid shot. It scared the Sh*t out of me!

I don't know anyone in my family or friend circle who died from covid alone but I know of 6 people who were either hospitalized or died suddenly in the months following their vaccinations. I know this is all circumstantial but I think the vaccine injuries are a BFD.


If your anecdotal evidence represented any type of trend that could be attributed to more than just you and a few people you know then we would have data on the millions of people who died from getting the covid vaccine. I'm sure you have a conspiracy theory about why that data isn't readily available though.

What is an obvious trend, however, is there are many people who blame any health issue that happened after they got the vaccine on the vaccine.


Well...there is a disturbing trend.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/08/11/more-americans-dying-than-before-pandemic-covid-deaths/70542423007/


iT mUsT bE tHe vAcCiNeS
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 14:01     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think the Vax injuries are as "extremely rare" as you say OP.

I had a severe allergic reaction to my first covid shot. It scared the Sh*t out of me!

I don't know anyone in my family or friend circle who died from covid alone but I know of 6 people who were either hospitalized or died suddenly in the months following their vaccinations. I know this is all circumstantial but I think the vaccine injuries are a BFD.


If your anecdotal evidence represented any type of trend that could be attributed to more than just you and a few people you know then we would have data on the millions of people who died from getting the covid vaccine. I'm sure you have a conspiracy theory about why that data isn't readily available though.

What is an obvious trend, however, is there are many people who blame any health issue that happened after they got the vaccine on the vaccine.


Well...there is a disturbing trend.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/08/11/more-americans-dying-than-before-pandemic-covid-deaths/70542423007/
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 14:01     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:My body, my choice.


And that's completely fine.

You decide whether you want a vaccine with potential consequences that a fairly minor for most, or possibly health disease after Covid.

It's completely up to you.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:56     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the Vax injuries are as "extremely rare" as you say OP.

I had a severe allergic reaction to my first covid shot. It scared the Sh*t out of me!

I don't know anyone in my family or friend circle who died from covid alone but I know of 6 people who were either hospitalized or died suddenly in the months following their vaccinations. I know this is all circumstantial but I think the vaccine injuries are a BFD.


If your anecdotal evidence represented any type of trend that could be attributed to more than just you and a few people you know then we would have data on the millions of people who died from getting the covid vaccine. I'm sure you have a conspiracy theory about why that data isn't readily available though.

What is an obvious trend, however, is there are many people who blame any health issue that happened after they got the vaccine on the vaccine.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:47     Subject: Re:Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not vaccinated and still never had covid (no masking, travel a lot, flying to Europe again next week, numerous trips to Asia and Middle East). I can calculate the risk for myself. I don't care what others do, they can wrap themselves in hazmat suits for the next decade. Injuries are real, as well as Covid. But everyone asses their own risk and take their own responsibility to protect themselves. If it means for you to get 8 boosters and wear the mask, go for it (I invested in vaccine manufactures and in companies producing heart medicines, so I am not anivaxer, I do hope more people get vaccinated). But I would never do that shot for myself or my family.


Non-responsive.


You don't know that you never had covid. You may have had symptom-free covid, but still communicated it to others.


Or tested too early without an appropriately timed follow up test.


OK. And what is your point? I may have a million other viruses that went without any symptoms. I cannot say I had them until it was confirmed by the test, right?
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:46     Subject: Re:Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if the vax was not mandated there would be less of the issue. The mandates were a big issue.


There was no vaccine police going around forcing people to be vaccinated. Certainly for occupations that served vulnerable populations like nurses and firefighters vaccine mandates were justifiable. They don't have a "right" to work these jobs unvaccinated.


Other jobs had vaccine requirements as well as colleges and summer camps.


Colleges, even the very liberal ones, were giving liberal exemptions from the vaccine. I got it for my kids in UVA and Cornell.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:45     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

I don't think the Vax injuries are as "extremely rare" as you say OP.

I had a severe allergic reaction to my first covid shot. It scared the Sh*t out of me!

I don't know anyone in my family or friend circle who died from covid alone but I know of 6 people who were either hospitalized or died suddenly in the months following their vaccinations. I know this is all circumstantial but I think the vaccine injuries are a BFD.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:44     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

My body, my choice.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:36     Subject: Re:Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Being unvaccinated is not a protected group when it comes to civil rights or human rights.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:21     Subject: Re:Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Other jobs had vaccine requirements as well as colleges and summer camps.


Good.


So you're for discrimination? Thought you were all about inclusion. Oh wait, ONLY when it suits your agenda. Got it.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 13:16     Subject: Why do antivaxxers say Covid is nbd but vax injuries are

Anonymous wrote:Antivaxxers dismiss 1.1 million Covid deaths as nbd (we have to "move on with our lives", we can't lockdown forever etc) and mock mask wearers for"living in fear. but when it comes to extremely rare vax injuries they become oversensitive bleeding hearts and say anyone who points out the obvious that vaccines do far more good than harm are heartless meanies. Why?


This is more about how you perceive/interpret the discourse than what it actually is.