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Anonymous wrote:people here are so foul. i am not in favor of option schools but if there are unsafe bus stops it shouldn’t matter where kids go. APS has so many issues at this point let’s just add this to the list. please stop making jabs at families who entered a lottery and got in and put that time and energy to writing APS about stopping lottery schools. or any of the other issues we all have with APS.

What OP is describing isn't an unsafe bus stop. It is at an elementary school that many other children, OP's neighbors in fact, walk to every day. But that's not good enough for OP. OP wants to go to an option school that, by definition, needs to serve the whole county geography, and thinks they also deserve door to door bus service. Enough already.

OP is not complaining that the stop is unsafe. It's the route the kids have to walk to to get to the stop that is unsafe. If APS considers major roads in determining walk zones for neighborhood schools, they should be giving the same consideration to hub stops.

Ehhh...it seems that OP did directly say that the hub is unsafe, she asked why Glebe admin, parents, teachers weren't worried about Glebe parents mingling with option children or whatever it is she's worried about? What I don't understand is that OP's kids would have otherwise attended Glebe and would have had to cross Glebe Rd and most 5th graders are crossing alone to/from school. It seems to me she's just anti her own neighborhood, which tracks with an option school for many. I hope my kid gives her cooties.

Can you read? OP said that APS is providing a crossing guard for glebe students need one but not when the option school students need one.

OP is ignorant. They don’t provide a crossing guard.

Since that is the DRIVEWAY for the school, it’s just a teacher standing at the front of the school, they always do that at every school we’ve ever attended.

When her kids are walking, it’s not Glebe start time so no teacher.

Eh, I think people aren't realizing how poorly thought out the hub stops are. I'm fine with the Glebe one (and have used it) but we were originally assigned to one that was ridiculous and our MS hub stop is awful.

Before hub stops there were 6-8 kids who all caught a bus to an option school at our corner. Now with hub stops there are often only 1-2 kids getting on at the hub (which should cover those 6-8 kids plus a dozen more), with nearly all the kids just being driven. If the hub stops were near the students, e.g., in the middle of a walkable neighborhood instead of in arbitrary public locations on busy roads, they could be a lot easier for students to access.

In short, the idea of hub stops is fine, but it would be great if someone put more thought into where they should be located.

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Anonymous wrote:people here are so foul. i am not in favor of option schools but if there are unsafe bus stops it shouldn’t matter where kids go. APS has so many issues at this point let’s just add this to the list. please stop making jabs at families who entered a lottery and got in and put that time and energy to writing APS about stopping lottery schools. or any of the other issues we all have with APS.

What OP is describing isn't an unsafe bus stop. It is at an elementary school that many other children, OP's neighbors in fact, walk to every day. But that's not good enough for OP. OP wants to go to an option school that, by definition, needs to serve the whole county geography, and thinks they also deserve door to door bus service. Enough already.

OP is not complaining that the stop is unsafe. It's the route the kids have to walk to to get to the stop that is unsafe. If APS considers major roads in determining walk zones for neighborhood schools, they should be giving the same consideration to hub stops.

Ehhh...it seems that OP did directly say that the hub is unsafe, she asked why Glebe admin, parents, teachers weren't worried about Glebe parents mingling with option children or whatever it is she's worried about? What I don't understand is that OP's kids would have otherwise attended Glebe and would have had to cross Glebe Rd and most 5th graders are crossing alone to/from school. It seems to me she's just anti her own neighborhood, which tracks with an option school for many. I hope my kid gives her cooties.

Can you read? OP said that APS is providing a crossing guard for glebe students need one but not when the option school students need one.

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Anonymous wrote:people here are so foul. i am not in favor of option schools but if there are unsafe bus stops it shouldn’t matter where kids go. APS has so many issues at this point let’s just add this to the list. please stop making jabs at families who entered a lottery and got in and put that time and energy to writing APS about stopping lottery schools. or any of the other issues we all have with APS.

What OP is describing isn't an unsafe bus stop. It is at an elementary school that many other children, OP's neighbors in fact, walk to every day. But that's not good enough for OP. OP wants to go to an option school that, by definition, needs to serve the whole county geography, and thinks they also deserve door to door bus service. Enough already.

OP is not complaining that the stop is unsafe. It's the route the kids have to walk to to get to the stop that is unsafe. If APS considers major roads in determining walk zones for neighborhood schools, they should be giving the same consideration to hub stops.

Ehhh...it seems that OP did directly say that the hub is unsafe, she asked why Glebe admin, parents, teachers weren't worried about Glebe parents mingling with option children or whatever it is she's worried about? What I don't understand is that OP's kids would have otherwise attended Glebe and would have had to cross Glebe Rd and most 5th graders are crossing alone to/from school. It seems to me she's just anti her own neighborhood, which tracks with an option school for many. I hope my kid gives her cooties.

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Anonymous wrote:Would love to know which school OP is with. We are at an option school and I'm so over all the parents emailing complaining about "unsafe" hub stops.

Either ATS or Campbell based on the comment about hanging around while Glebe is still in session. They both start early. My money is on ATS.

What difference does it make? Why do people insist on knowing the specific school anytime a parent asks a question or has a complaint?
Does it somehow justify their arrogant and dismissive attitude?

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Anonymous wrote:Kids deserve to have safe bus stops no matter what APS school they attend.

Your 5th grader will be crossing Lee Highway or similar without a crossing guard next year. So he can handle crossing Glebe and guide your 4th.

A parent should absolutely be walking a 1st grader to school. Not a 5th grader. Stop being lazy.

Judgey much?

Fairfax provides transportation to TJ

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Anonymous wrote:Send your kid to a neighborhood school or STFU

The school board should say they’re not providing transportation to option schools or make sure safe transportation is provided for all students. If half the kids at an option school have safe and convenient bus stops, and the other half don’t, that starts to feel like unequal access.

We should just be like fairfax— no transportation provided for option schools. We copy fairfax for everything else already!
Either that or make it a you pay for the bus for an option school (free if you are f/rl). The hub stop are trying to make it more efficient and reduce the number of buses. There are other ways of achieving the same goal.

My daughter goes to Campbell and we are a mile from our hub stop, but it’s not a walkable mile because we’d have to cross 4 major roads! I assumed they just made sure everyone was within a mile of a hub stop and then figured we’d drive (which is an equity issue too, since not everyone can drive). But most people drive to our stop.

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Anonymous wrote:people here are so foul. i am not in favor of option schools but if there are unsafe bus stops it shouldn’t matter where kids go. APS has so many issues at this point let’s just add this to the list. please stop making jabs at families who entered a lottery and got in and put that time and energy to writing APS about stopping lottery schools. or any of the other issues we all have with APS.

What OP is describing isn't an unsafe bus stop. It is at an elementary school that many other children, OP's neighbors in fact, walk to every day. But that's not good enough for OP. OP wants to go to an option school that, by definition, needs to serve the whole county geography, and thinks they also deserve door to door bus service. Enough already.

OP is not complaining that the stop is unsafe. It's the route the kids have to walk to to get to the stop that is unsafe. If APS considers major roads in determining walk zones for neighborhood schools, they should be giving the same consideration to hub stops.

There is a stoplight.

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Anonymous wrote:Send your kid to a neighborhood school or STFU

The school board should say they’re not providing transportation to option schools or make sure safe transportation is provided for all students. If half the kids at an option school have safe and convenient bus stops, and the other half don’t, that starts to feel like unequal access.

So? The whole option school system is unequal access.

+1

And how does one family have THREE kids in an option school?

What are you talking about? The option elementary schools have sibling preference (if you have an older kid already attending the school, your rising kindergartener gets a spot).

Even for ATS? I thought there was only a twin preference.

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Anonymous wrote:Would love to know which school OP is with. We are at an option school and I'm so over all the parents emailing complaining about "unsafe" hub stops.

Either ATS or Campbell based on the comment about hanging around while Glebe is still in session. They both start early. My money is on ATS.

No chance her home school is Glebe and she chose Campbell.

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Anonymous wrote:people here are so foul. i am not in favor of option schools but if there are unsafe bus stops it shouldn’t matter where kids go. APS has so many issues at this point let’s just add this to the list. please stop making jabs at families who entered a lottery and got in and put that time and energy to writing APS about stopping lottery schools. or any of the other issues we all have with APS.

What OP is describing isn't an unsafe bus stop. It is at an elementary school that many other children, OP's neighbors in fact, walk to every day. But that's not good enough for OP. OP wants to go to an option school that, by definition, needs to serve the whole county geography, and thinks they also deserve door to door bus service. Enough already.

OP is not complaining that the stop is unsafe. It's the route the kids have to walk to to get to the stop that is unsafe. If APS considers major roads in determining walk zones for neighborhood schools, they should be giving the same consideration to hub stops.

Kids who go to Glebe walk across Glebe. Just like OP's kids.

I don’t think they actually expect you to walk to the hub stop. They assume you’ll be driving there. It’s better than driving all the way? That’s the thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Send your kid to a neighborhood school or STFU

The school board should say they’re not providing transportation to option schools or make sure safe transportation is provided for all students. If half the kids at an option school have safe and convenient bus stops, and the other half don’t, that starts to feel like unequal access.

So? The whole option school system is unequal access.

+1

And how does one family have THREE kids in an option school?

What are you talking about? The option elementary schools have sibling preference (if you have an older kid already attending the school, your rising kindergartener gets a spot).