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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m late to the thread but to add my two cents, the OBGC park location was just horribly organized and penny pinching in every possible way. 9 v 9 games were played on tiny 7 v 7 fields to fit in more fields. Games were 50 mins and not 60 even at u11/12. They spaced out games to leave a whopping 5 MINUTES between games, having games start on the hour (50 min game + 5 min halftime). I have been to dozens of youth soccer tournaments and never seen that much squeezed in. It wasn’t even the water breaks that messed it up; you’re doomed from the start scheduling like that. No warmup space. One ref for every game and never three, and many weren’t good either. Goals were garbage cheap quality. Some top posts were sagging down.

Literally every possible way to maximize $$$ — smaller fields, shorter games, more games squeezed in with no time between, no space left for warmups, only one ref. Grass fields (though luckily nothing was rained out). Theoretically this is an “elite” tournament but compare all of what I just listed to an actual premier tournament and the money in from entry fees v. money out invested in tourney costs.

This tourney didn’t even come close to delivering a premier tournament experience at OBGC park, at least. Don’t know about covenant.

25 minutes is standard time for that age at a tournament. Also the field sizes have a range so they probably met the criteria. Lastly more space does not mean better games. By u12 most kids can kick half of the field. So size of field shouldn’t matter unless you like to play kickball.

Anonymous wrote:I know I’m late to the thread but to add my two cents, the OBGC park location was just horribly organized and penny pinching in every possible way. 9 v 9 games were played on tiny 7 v 7 fields to fit in more fields. Games were 50 mins and not 60 even at u11/12. They spaced out games to leave a whopping 5 MINUTES between games, having games start on the hour (50 min game + 5 min halftime). I have been to dozens of youth soccer tournaments and never seen that much squeezed in. It wasn’t even the water breaks that messed it up; you’re doomed from the start scheduling like that. No warmup space. One ref for every game and never three, and many weren’t good either. Goals were garbage cheap quality. Some top posts were sagging down.

Literally every possible way to maximize $$$ — smaller fields, shorter games, more games squeezed in with no time between, no space left for warmups, only one ref. Grass fields (though luckily nothing was rained out). Theoretically this is an “elite” tournament but compare all of what I just listed to an actual premier tournament and the money in from entry fees v. money out invested in tourney costs.

This tourney didn’t even come close to delivering a premier tournament experience at OBGC park, at least. Don’t know about covenant.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with pretty much all of these comments.

- Water breaks were good. Clock kept running so didn’t impact delays.

- This was the worst I’ve seen in terms of delays. Not sure what drove it this year.

- Were there any ECNL or GA teams in 2nd brackets? In our brackets (2009 & 2010 girls) they were all top brackets (at least for ECNL, not sure on all GA teams). 2010 FCV even played up a year.

Figures... FCV always ducking real competition and claim they aren't by playing up??? Your competition was over in the VDA Cup, VDA 2010girls could have used a victory too so could have been a win , win for both of y'all. Stop hiding FCV!

If anybody is hiding it’s VDA. I was interested to see their 2011G group possibly face Valor’s 2011G group in the east coast premier cup until it appears as if Valor either pulled out or the spot was pulled from them. Even for the U17 group in OBGC with NVA pulling out from a rematch against FCV. Doesn’t add up to FCV ducking. Each club plays their typical slate year in and year out. Really don’t think anybody is hiding from anybody. If they anybody wanted to face each other they know where to find one another. These kinds of arguments pitting this team vs that is more for parents egos than anything else.

VDA 2011 played in Copa Rayados East Cup and VDA cup. The VA Valor coach should contact the VDA coach for this scrimmage you want.