Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 07:30     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's possible the ELC for all schools are at schools where most of the students qualified for the CES lottery? I hope that's true.


There are no such schools. It's only the top 15%. For most to qualify, it would be top 50%.



Top 15% of who? Just that school or of the county. The school seems silly. One schools top 15% could be vastly different than another.


They group schools by SES level (percentage of students receiving FARMs) and then take the top 15 percent of students from those groups and put them in a lottery for CES. Anyone who isn't in CES is guaranteed ELC at their home school. But there are also kids who were not in the CES lottery who are offered ELC, particularly in low-FARMs school where the lottery cutoff is very high (above 85th percentile nationally). So there are indeed schools where most students demonstrate a need for enrichment, even if most students are not in the CES lottery.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 06:40     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's possible the ELC for all schools are at schools where most of the students qualified for the CES lottery? I hope that's true.


There are no such schools. It's only the top 15%. For most to qualify, it would be top 50%.



Top 15% of who? Just that school or of the county. The school seems silly. One schools top 15% could be vastly different than another.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 06:17     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Bannockburn, Wood Acres, Carderock and Bradley Hills are also doing ELC for all in 4th grade. Think it is was a wise choice- up the bar for everyone and provide some supports for kids who need it. Not sure why people are unhappy about this.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 22:15     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like our school has all 4th graders taking ELC this year. Anyone else?


So glad they're raising expectations for everyone and demanding a higher standard from all students!


It's probably because MCPS failed to provide a replacement for Benchmark, even though they said they would.


I thought they replaced it with Really Great Reading.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 22:06     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like our school has all 4th graders taking ELC this year. Anyone else?


So glad they're raising expectations for everyone and demanding a higher standard from all students!


It's probably because MCPS failed to provide a replacement for Benchmark, even though they said they would.


I am still so angry about that. What an awful curriculum, and they had an opportunity to replace it with something much stronger.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 10:15     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like our school has all 4th graders taking ELC this year. Anyone else?


So glad they're raising expectations for everyone and demanding a higher standard from all students!


It's probably because MCPS failed to provide a replacement for Benchmark, even though they said they would.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 10:12     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like our school has all 4th graders taking ELC this year. Anyone else?


So glad they're raising expectations for everyone and demanding a higher standard from all students!


LOL
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 09:43     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our elementary I heard 80-90 percent qualified for the lottery. I suspect always been something like that because another parent told us that when they recommended gifted testing a few years ago the cut off was 80th percentile and everyone tested except for a very small number of kids.

Even then when they did the ELC it was only for the top kids who were waitlisted for the CES or were otherwise identified as being above grade level.

I don't think it's fair to anyone to use that curriculum for every student. It creates distress for those who are behind and lowers the standards for those so ahead they actually need it.


So 90% of the kids at your school were in the top 15% of the school. That's amazing!


That's not how the lottery works. It's top 15th percentile in the catchment area


Kind of but not really. It's by the actual school's farm rate.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 09:42     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:Looks like our school has all 4th graders taking ELC this year. Anyone else?


So glad they're raising expectations for everyone and demanding a higher standard from all students!
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 09:35     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:Chevy Chase ES and Bradley Hills ES are doing ELC for all 4th graders. Any others?


How is it going in those schools?


Too soon to tell.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 08:53     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Chevy Chase ES and Bradley Hills ES are doing ELC for all 4th graders. Any others?

How is it going in those schools?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2023 23:38     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Is there a list of schools that are offering ELC to everyone in the grade vs. just for kids who demonstrate a need for enrichment?
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 16:45     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our elementary I heard 80-90 percent qualified for the lottery. I suspect always been something like that because another parent told us that when they recommended gifted testing a few years ago the cut off was 80th percentile and everyone tested except for a very small number of kids.

Even then when they did the ELC it was only for the top kids who were waitlisted for the CES or were otherwise identified as being above grade level.

I don't think it's fair to anyone to use that curriculum for every student. It creates distress for those who are behind and lowers the standards for those so ahead they actually need it.


So 90% of the kids at your school were in the top 15% of the school. That's amazing!


That's not how the lottery works. It's top 15th percentile in the catchment area
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 16:41     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:It's possible the ELC for all schools are at schools where most of the students qualified for the CES lottery? I hope that's true.


I know about our school about 60% were identified as gifted in reading/writing. That's why we are ELC for all.
Anonymous
Post 08/31/2023 16:40     Subject: ELC for everyone?
Anonymous wrote:If ELC isn't offered to all of the 4th graders, can students become qualified for it based on upcoming MAP tests? Will they be able to transfer in immediately or wait until 5th grade?


It varies by school - talk to principal or reading specialist.