Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 20:55     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sped teachers are in such short supply that schools can’t hire more and can’t do anything about your complaints. Teachers can’t be let go either because see above. But you are welcome to complain anyway.


Yeah, the issue here isn't the IEP kids. My kid is an IEP kid and the thought that he somehow makes life unfair and bad for your child is heartbreaking and insulting. You probably don't mean it to be, but it is. I will also say that we need to decouple IEP from Behavior Issue. Like PP with a dyslexic child, my kid has no behavior issues. The law is the law and it's not the IEP kids' fault that the adults are cheap and local governments won't cough up funds for more teachers. Those are the people you get angry at.


Thank you. Unfortunately there are a number of posters here who live for a chance to insult people with disabilities.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 20:53     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf, that sucks and is totally unfair for the non-IEP kids


It sucks for the iep kids with mild needs who get ignored because they don’t have enough help and they get ignored.


…then surely it sucks even more for the normal kids who are getting ignored even further…?


Normal kids.. our kids are normal kids. The normal kids should do just fine with basic teaching. It's ours who get ignored.


My kid spent a year in the IEP class. We got zero feedback and no parent teacher conference that year. We talked to other families and heard similar. The teacher's excuse was that they were too busy filling out required paperwork and attending required meetings. Apparently nothing was actually required for our kids so that's what they got.


Bs. That’s a lousy school with crappy teachers.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 20:52     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Ieps. Not usps
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 20:51     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid was one of 5 non IEP kids in the IEP class last year and it was a total disaster and waste of a year. The teachers were tied up all day with social and behavioral issues, and the non-IEP kids were basically left to fend for themselves. It got so bad that towards the end of the year they would just play movies for the non-IEP kids every afternoon while the general teacher and special Ed teachers worked with the IEP kids. My kid literally learned nothing, and when I complained all they could do was promise that he wouldn’t get stuck in the same environment for at least the next two years. After that, all bets are off.


This is the problem with that setup. It’s easier for the adults, and possibly better for the IEP kids if it allows them to actually get their services/hours. But it sounds terrible for non-IEP kids.



It isn’t better for kids with usps and schools are not supposed to be doing this. I would file complaints.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 20:17     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf, that sucks and is totally unfair for the non-IEP kids


It sucks for the iep kids with mild needs who get ignored because they don’t have enough help and they get ignored.


…then surely it sucks even more for the normal kids who are getting ignored even further…?


Normal kids.. our kids are normal kids. The normal kids should do just fine with basic teaching. It's ours who get ignored.


Should do just fine? How would you know? The truth is you really don't care. As long as you get yours, you care not about the rest of the kids. Everyone wants what's best for their kids, not just you.


And now your kid is living in a van down by the river, right?
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 19:49     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
It really depends if the IEP cohort has bad behavioral issues or not. If its just inattentiveness or other LD's that are not disruptive, its usually not a problem for the other kids. Especially since our school tends to give this group to the stronger teacher for the grade.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 16:18     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
My kid was a peer in an IEP class. There were some behaviors in that class but so did other classes. My Dad's class had more support because it had a sped provider and the kids with IEPs were pulled to small groups. She was put in the class again and the class is really unbalanced because other parents got their kids moved to other classes because they heard it was a class for kids with needs.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 16:11     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf, that sucks and is totally unfair for the non-IEP kids


It sucks for the iep kids with mild needs who get ignored because they don’t have enough help and they get ignored.


…then surely it sucks even more for the normal kids who are getting ignored even further…?


Normal kids.. our kids are normal kids. The normal kids should do just fine with basic teaching. It's ours who get ignored.


Should do just fine? How would you know? The truth is you really don't care. As long as you get yours, you care not about the rest of the kids. Everyone wants what's best for their kids, not just you.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 16:06     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf, that sucks and is totally unfair for the non-IEP kids


It sucks for the iep kids with mild needs who get ignored because they don’t have enough help and they get ignored.


…then surely it sucks even more for the normal kids who are getting ignored even further…?


Normal kids.. our kids are normal kids. The normal kids should do just fine with basic teaching. It's ours who get ignored.


My kid spent a year in the IEP class. We got zero feedback and no parent teacher conference that year. We talked to other families and heard similar. The teacher's excuse was that they were too busy filling out required paperwork and attending required meetings. Apparently nothing was actually required for our kids so that's what they got.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 16:04     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf, that sucks and is totally unfair for the non-IEP kids


It sucks for the iep kids with mild needs who get ignored because they don’t have enough help and they get ignored.


…then surely it sucks even more for the normal kids who are getting ignored even further…?


Normal kids.. our kids are normal kids. The normal kids should do just fine with basic teaching. It's ours who get ignored.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 16:03     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:Sped teachers are in such short supply that schools can’t hire more and can’t do anything about your complaints. Teachers can’t be let go either because see above. But you are welcome to complain anyway.


Yeah, the issue here isn't the IEP kids. My kid is an IEP kid and the thought that he somehow makes life unfair and bad for your child is heartbreaking and insulting. You probably don't mean it to be, but it is. I will also say that we need to decouple IEP from Behavior Issue. Like PP with a dyslexic child, my kid has no behavior issues. The law is the law and it's not the IEP kids' fault that the adults are cheap and local governments won't cough up funds for more teachers. Those are the people you get angry at.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 14:51     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf, that sucks and is totally unfair for the non-IEP kids


It sucks for the iep kids with mild needs who get ignored because they don’t have enough help and they get ignored.


…then surely it sucks even more for the normal kids who are getting ignored even further…?
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 14:39     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
Sped teachers are in such short supply that schools can’t hire more and can’t do anything about your complaints. Teachers can’t be let go either because see above. But you are welcome to complain anyway.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 14:29     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
They had programs at our high school where behavioral problems were together in one group and students diagnosed with a mental illness were in another group.

They went to regular classes depending on if they could handle it.

Nothing like an iep majority class, I can’t imagine.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2023 13:39     Subject: Elementary school has only one IEP class per grade
IEP kids are almost always going to take away from the non-IEP kids. That's how the system is designed.