Some good news - an eerily similar scenario was foiled In Pittsburgh.

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Anonymous wrote:What gets me is the ridiculous defense of weapons like the AR-15.

The gun lobby argument of "we need good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns" is moot when you consider how many good guys with handguns, even multiple fire ones, will get plowed down by the first round of fire from a weapon like an AR-15.

AR-15 allow single shooters to kill many innocents or any combination of attackers and bystanders with complete disregard for any type of responsible reaction. I know very few responsible gun owners who want or need an AR-15.

That argument forever lost any meaning it might have had with Uvalde. Hundreds of "good guys with guns" did absolutely nothing.

The good guys were literally held back by the police. The door to the classroom of the shooting was unlocked the entire time while police did nothing, and parents begged for them to stop the attack. Parents who attempted to go in and stop it were handcuffed.

Is this really the example you want to use for why we should trust the government to defend us?

Not sure how you read that I'm suggesting the government defend us. From Uvalde, I see a whole lot of people trained in firearms and in law enforcement who were terrified to act against a single shooter with an AR-15. What are you proposing, exactly? ?
Maybe a weapon of mass murder such as an AR-15 shouldn't be readily available to just anyone.
And before you accuse me of being anti-gun, let me stipulate that I believe in 2A AS IT WAS WRITTEN AND INTENDED and am the child of a responsible gun owner with a concealed carry. There's no excuse for incidents such as that, and the NRA doesn't care...nor do the politicians who serve it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What gets me is the ridiculous defense of weapons like the AR-15.

The gun lobby argument of "we need good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns" is moot when you consider how many good guys with handguns, even multiple fire ones, will get plowed down by the first round of fire from a weapon like an AR-15.

AR-15 allow single shooters to kill many innocents or any combination of attackers and bystanders with complete disregard for any type of responsible reaction. I know very few responsible gun owners who want or need an AR-15.

That argument forever lost any meaning it might have had with Uvalde. Hundreds of "good guys with guns" did absolutely nothing.

The good guys were literally held back by the police. The door to the classroom of the shooting was unlocked the entire time while police did nothing, and parents begged for them to stop the attack. Parents who attempted to go in and stop it were handcuffed.

Is this really the example you want to use for why we should trust the government to defend us?

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Anonymous wrote:More people die from handguns than any other type of gun. Period. They're much smaller and easier to conceal. Tons and tons and tons of videos on YouTube exist to show you how to easily transform a Glock into what is basically a machine gun. AR-15 scare people because of the way that they look, but thousands of more people die per year due to handguns.

I’d love to hear you say that to the families of the victims!!

I'm not sure why you think you speak for the families of victims. I interact regularly with a parent of a victim of a high profile school massacre. He's been public with his views, so no one needs to speak for him. But he doesn't agree with you.

Anonymous wrote:This is all about money.
The gun lobby (ie gun makers) want you to think it's about 2A.
No.
It's about making more money for the gun makers.
They have brilliantly used fear and twisted 2A into selling more guns to the idiots who think having an arsenal of guns in their house "protects" them.
You're more likely to get shot if you have a gun in your house. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/07/guns-handguns-safety-homicide-killing-study

100 percent true.

This is all about money.
The gun lobby (ie gun makers) want you to think it's about 2A.
No.
It's about making more money for the gun makers.
They have brilliantly used fear and twisted 2A into selling more guns to the idiots who think having an arsenal of guns in their house "protects" them.
You're more likely to get shot if you have a gun in your house. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/07/guns-handguns-safety-homicide-killing-study

Anonymous wrote:How are white supremacists supposed to strike fear in the hearts of Black people without big guns?

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people die from handguns than any other type of gun. Period. They're much smaller and easier to conceal. Tons and tons and tons of videos on YouTube exist to show you how to easily transform a Glock into what is basically a machine gun. AR-15 scare people because of the way that they look, but thousands of more people die per year due to handguns.

Mansplaining dink in the house! You're right, mass shooters have no interest in AR 15s. see: Newtown, San Bernardino, Las Vegas, Parkland, Uvalde, Nashville, Highland Park, etc, etc. etc.

"The AR-15 fires bullets at such a high velocity — often in a barrage of 30 or even 100 in rapid succession — that it can eviscerate multiple people in seconds. A single bullet lands with a shock wave intense enough to blow apart a skull and demolish vital organs."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10

How does that change any statistics?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/type-gun-us-homicides-ar-15/story?id=78689504


Mass shooters? Honey, I hate to break the news to you, but virtually every single weekend in cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc,.they have more shootings and murders every weekend that collectively are far worse in terms of total lives lost. They're all using handguns for the most part:

https://data.baltimoresun.com/news/shoot-to-kill/

9mm and Glocks are by far and away the gun police in a city like Baltimore encounter the most. A 40 caliber Glock is going to do serious damage no matter how much you huff and puff about AR-15.

Sure, we’re supposed to believe that you actually care about black-on-black inner city violence. GMAFB 🙄

They're concern trolling. In reality, they probably enjoy seeing black on black crime. Reduces the population of a group they hate.

Anonymous wrote:What gets me is the ridiculous defense of weapons like the AR-15.

The gun lobby argument of "we need good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns" is moot when you consider how many good guys with handguns, even multiple fire ones, will get plowed down by the first round of fire from a weapon like an AR-15.

AR-15 allow single shooters to kill many innocents or any combination of attackers and bystanders with complete disregard for any type of responsible reaction. I know very few responsible gun owners who want or need an AR-15.

That argument forever lost any meaning it might have had with Uvalde. Hundreds of "good guys with guns" did absolutely nothing.

Anonymous wrote:More people die from handguns than any other type of gun. Period. They're much smaller and easier to conceal. Tons and tons and tons of videos on YouTube exist to show you how to easily transform a Glock into what is basically a machine gun. AR-15 scare people because of the way that they look, but thousands of more people die per year due to handguns.

I’d love to hear you say that to the families of the victims!!

Anonymous wrote:What gets me is the ridiculous defense of weapons like the AR-15.

The gun lobby argument of "we need good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns" is moot when you consider how many good guys with handguns, even multiple fire ones, will get plowed down by the first round of fire from a weapon like an AR-15.

AR-15 allow single shooters to kill many innocents or any combination of attackers and bystanders with complete disregard for any type of responsible reaction. I know very few responsible gun owners who want or need an AR-15.

But there's money to be made selling AR 15s, so it's ok.

What gets me is the ridiculous defense of weapons like the AR-15.

The gun lobby argument of "we need good guys with guns to stop bad guys with guns" is moot when you consider how many good guys with handguns, even multiple fire ones, will get plowed down by the first round of fire from a weapon like an AR-15.

AR-15 allow single shooters to kill many innocents or any combination of attackers and bystanders with complete disregard for any type of responsible reaction. I know very few responsible gun owners who want or need an AR-15.