Anonymous
08/27/2023 13:51
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the non-AAP kids are put down. The kids make hurtful comments. It’s a terrible system. It’s mainly just an acceleration of math by one year. We see the other topics are the same. And, the acceleration of math is just a plodding forward at a faster rate; it is not a gifted, deeper understanding of math. So, much drama over a one year push-ahead in one subject. It keeps the tutoring companies in business in the area. Lots of Mathnasium, RSM, etc. type places all over the area.
Are you bitter because your child was not admitted into AAP? Your vitriol makes no sense and your information about the program is inaccurate. I have two kids. One was in AAP and the other one wasn’t. Both kids got the education they needed. My AAP kid had friends in both the AAP and non-AAP classes. My non-AAP kid’s best friend through eighth grade was an AAP student she met in fourth grade at school. My AAP kid never felt she was better than her sister. My non-AAP kid never said she felt less than at school. Yeah, there are some jerk kids and jerk parents, but your blanket characterization of AAP is wrong.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 13:46
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
That’s not been our experience at all.
That's because your child IS AAP. Ask the parent of a General Ed child and they will tell you how their kid's AAP friends dropped them in third grade and never looked back, and how the AAP kids will say snide remarks like "we're smarter than you, we're a year ahead in math" or "our projects are so much more advanced than yours". It happens everywhere - at centers and at LLIV schools. We've had general ed kids in both.
Honestly, this sounds like projecting. My child is AAP and I am a Scout leaders. In five years of having Scouts mixed from AAP and gen ed classes, I've never heard a peep of this. I've heard them talk about EVERYTHING at school (teachers, classmates, work, assemblies, etc.) yet have never heard anything like what you describe.
I think it's more parents thinking that this is what the AAP kids and parents must think of their gen ed kids.
And it didn't occur to you that the kids in scouts are not really the kind of kids to act like what is described above? The "mean girls" are not in Girl Scouts.
So it’s clear you know nothing about a AAP or Scouts. Do you think only perfect children are in both?
The meanest girls are in Girl Scouts at our school. You can’t generalize.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 13:37
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
That’s not been our experience at all.
That's because your child IS AAP. Ask the parent of a General Ed child and they will tell you how their kid's AAP friends dropped them in third grade and never looked back, and how the AAP kids will say snide remarks like "we're smarter than you, we're a year ahead in math" or "our projects are so much more advanced than yours". It happens everywhere - at centers and at LLIV schools. We've had general ed kids in both.
Honestly, this sounds like projecting. My child is AAP and I am a Scout leaders. In five years of having Scouts mixed from AAP and gen ed classes, I've never heard a peep of this. I've heard them talk about EVERYTHING at school (teachers, classmates, work, assemblies, etc.) yet have never heard anything like what you describe.
I think it's more parents thinking that this is what the AAP kids and parents must think of their gen ed kids.
And it didn't occur to you that the kids in scouts are not really the kind of kids to act like what is described above? The "mean girls" are not in Girl Scouts.
So it’s clear you know nothing about a AAP or Scouts. Do you think only perfect children are in both?
Anonymous
08/27/2023 05:54
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Yes, the non-AAP kids are put down. The kids make hurtful comments. It’s a terrible system. It’s mainly just an acceleration of math by one year. We see the other topics are the same. And, the acceleration of math is just a plodding forward at a faster rate; it is not a gifted, deeper understanding of math. So, much drama over a one year push-ahead in one subject. It keeps the tutoring companies in business in the area. Lots of Mathnasium, RSM, etc. type places all over the area.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 01:01
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Yes, they are going away.
Anonymous
08/27/2023 00:17
Subject: Re:Are AAP centers going away?
My 5th grade kid is in a level IV class at our zoned school. Her tightest crew of friends are in the general ed class. It’s a nonissue! I think the parents are the ones fueling this narrative.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 21:52
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
That’s not been our experience at all.
That's because your child IS AAP. Ask the parent of a General Ed child and they will tell you how their kid's AAP friends dropped them in third grade and never looked back, and how the AAP kids will say snide remarks like "we're smarter than you, we're a year ahead in math" or "our projects are so much more advanced than yours". It happens everywhere - at centers and at LLIV schools. We've had general ed kids in both.
Honestly, this sounds like projecting. My child is AAP and I am a Scout leaders. In five years of having Scouts mixed from AAP and gen ed classes, I've never heard a peep of this. I've heard them talk about EVERYTHING at school (teachers, classmates, work, assemblies, etc.) yet have never heard anything like what you describe.
I think it's more parents thinking that this is what the AAP kids and parents must think of their gen ed kids.
Yup, I have met parents who are obsessed with this storyline. They talk about it incessantly and give their kids an inferiority complex. It’s not other kids; it’s their own parents who harm their kids with the griping about AAP.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 21:46
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Some kids are jerks. Some jerks qualify for AAP and are, predictably, jerks about it. If the ones that are jerks hadn’t qualified, they’d be jerks about something else, like their sports skills or fancy shoes.
(I teach level 4 at a center and would much prefer a true gifted program focused on meeting needs of very advanced learners, instead of this dual meeting needs/talent development model that means we water down content, admit too many kids, and don’t do a good job of meeting needs OR developing talent, but they don’t listen to me.)
(I teach level 4 at a center and would much prefer a true gifted program focused on meeting needs of very advanced learners, instead of this dual meeting needs/talent development model that means we water down content, admit too many kids, and don’t do a good job of meeting needs OR developing talent, but they don’t listen to me.)
Anonymous
08/26/2023 21:44
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
That’s not been our experience at all.
That's because your child IS AAP. Ask the parent of a General Ed child and they will tell you how their kid's AAP friends dropped them in third grade and never looked back, and how the AAP kids will say snide remarks like "we're smarter than you, we're a year ahead in math" or "our projects are so much more advanced than yours". It happens everywhere - at centers and at LLIV schools. We've had general ed kids in both.
Honestly, this sounds like projecting. My child is AAP and I am a Scout leaders. In five years of having Scouts mixed from AAP and gen ed classes, I've never heard a peep of this. I've heard them talk about EVERYTHING at school (teachers, classmates, work, assemblies, etc.) yet have never heard anything like what you describe.
I think it's more parents thinking that this is what the AAP kids and parents must think of their gen ed kids.
And it didn't occur to you that the kids in scouts are not really the kind of kids to act like what is described above? The "mean girls" are not in Girl Scouts.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 21:03
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
I think this is a problem is some schools, but not others. DD stayed friends with kids in different classrooms through 6th grade, as did a whole bunch of her classmates (my neighbor’s non-AAP kid’s best friend is an AAP kid that he met in 5th grade). In my friend’s DD’s school, that doesn’t happen as much.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 20:18
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
That’s not been our experience at all.
That's because your child IS AAP. Ask the parent of a General Ed child and they will tell you how their kid's AAP friends dropped them in third grade and never looked back, and how the AAP kids will say snide remarks like "we're smarter than you, we're a year ahead in math" or "our projects are so much more advanced than yours". It happens everywhere - at centers and at LLIV schools. We've had general ed kids in both.
Honestly, this sounds like projecting. My child is AAP and I am a Scout leaders. In five years of having Scouts mixed from AAP and gen ed classes, I've never heard a peep of this. I've heard them talk about EVERYTHING at school (teachers, classmates, work, assemblies, etc.) yet have never heard anything like what you describe.
I think it's more parents thinking that this is what the AAP kids and parents must think of their gen ed kids.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 19:48
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
That’s not been our experience at all.
That's because your child IS AAP. Ask the parent of a General Ed child and they will tell you how their kid's AAP friends dropped them in third grade and never looked back, and how the AAP kids will say snide remarks like "we're smarter than you, we're a year ahead in math" or "our projects are so much more advanced than yours". It happens everywhere - at centers and at LLIV schools. We've had general ed kids in both.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 18:23
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
That’s not been our experience at all.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 15:50
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
Anonymous wrote:The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”
No
Anonymous
08/26/2023 15:50
Subject: Are AAP centers going away?
The kids think they are more elite and act accordingly. They lack patience, humility, and compassion. They act like they are superior to others.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hopefully, but probably not next year
There are a perplexingly large number of people, including parents, people at Gatehouse, and some of the school board who are anti-center and unaware that center schools are extremely popular and a big draw for the county. So strange.
Nope. I have two, non-prepped, Level IV students and I purposely kept them at the base school program because I wanted them to be challenged but also have a solid EQ (for example, not acting superior to their classmates). I know plenty of parents who made the same choice.
EQ comes from the home, not from the school. It's not like centers are full of snobs and have-nots and local schools are egalitarian utopias. Kids who are snobs get it from their parents.
Whether or not the parents are snobs, kids pick up on the caste system created by AAP. We tried not telling our oldest child, other kids told him. He came home one day and said “you know I’m in the smart class right?”