jsteele
Post 08/23/2023 11:16     Subject: Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:Are they still making metrobus free in DC? My older kid will be riding metro to high school. She loves metro. It seems the only demographic who loves metro is teens. They should do more to make it safe— guarding against trainsurfing, etc. and to lure back office drones, they should make it cleaner and up the ambiance. Didnt they try music in the metro for a while?


The plan to make Metrobuses free for rides starting within DC has been postponed, indefinitely I believe. But, the Kids Ride Free program still exists so if your kid is a DC resident, she should be able to get a Kids Ride Free card from her school and ride both the train and busses free.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 10:51     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got out of the habit of using public transportation during the pandemic, and we're not going back. It's too slow and unreliable. Now we drive everywhere.


+1

It's not that people have stop moving around. It's just that people are less interested in using public transportation. They're voting with their feet.


There is actual data about people moving to hybrid work permanently since the pandemic and people on this forum keep ignoring it.

This IS the most significant reason for declined ridership.



Sure, and that's kind of obvious isn't it? But things can happen for more than one reason. I stopped using public transportation during the pandemic and now I have no interest in going back. Driving is usually a thousand times more convenient than the subway or the bus.


You'd think it is obvious, and is clearly like 90%+ of the reason for declined ridership, but folks seem to repeatedly ignore data (which, unlike our current crime trend, is parallel to other city trends as well).
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 10:35     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got out of the habit of using public transportation during the pandemic, and we're not going back. It's too slow and unreliable. Now we drive everywhere.


+1

It's not that people have stop moving around. It's just that people are less interested in using public transportation. They're voting with their feet.


There is actual data about people moving to hybrid work permanently since the pandemic and people on this forum keep ignoring it.

This IS the most significant reason for declined ridership.



Sure, and that's kind of obvious isn't it? But things can happen for more than one reason. I stopped using public transportation during the pandemic and now I have no interest in going back. Driving is usually a thousand times more convenient than the subway or the bus.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 10:26     Subject: Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Are they still making metrobus free in DC? My older kid will be riding metro to high school. She loves metro. It seems the only demographic who loves metro is teens. They should do more to make it safe— guarding against trainsurfing, etc. and to lure back office drones, they should make it cleaner and up the ambiance. Didnt they try music in the metro for a while?
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 10:21     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:We're not going to reach pre-pandemic ridership totals.



Reposting this so people can stop listing opinions and pay attention to data.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 10:20     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got out of the habit of using public transportation during the pandemic, and we're not going back. It's too slow and unreliable. Now we drive everywhere.


+1

It's not that people have stop moving around. It's just that people are less interested in using public transportation. They're voting with their feet.


There is actual data about people moving to hybrid work permanently since the pandemic and people on this forum keep ignoring it.

This IS the most significant reason for declined ridership.

Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 10:15     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Metro ridership isn't going to get anywhere close to pre-pandemic levels unless more companies mandate in-office presence. Otherwise, this is and will be the new normal, which obviously isn't fiscally sustainable for metro. Not that the system was fiscally sustainable before the pandemic anyway....
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 09:59     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:We got out of the habit of using public transportation during the pandemic, and we're not going back. It's too slow and unreliable. Now we drive everywhere.


+1

It's not that people have stop moving around. It's just that people are less interested in using public transportation. They're voting with their feet.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 19:49     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got out of the habit of using public transportation during the pandemic, and we're not going back. It's too slow and unreliable. Now we drive everywhere.


Who's "we"?


Seems like a safe assumption that "we" is the person's family.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 19:48     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

i dont ride the bus because it's too expensive. if it was free, id take it everywhere.

kidding!

i dont ride the bus because riding the bus is terrible.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 19:47     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:We got out of the habit of using public transportation during the pandemic, and we're not going back. It's too slow and unreliable. Now we drive everywhere.


Who's "we"?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 19:28     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Metro was declining long before the pandemic. They should have included more years on that graph—I think ridership peaked around 2008.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 19:24     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Honestly it's kind of unbelievable how few people take the subway or bus. Those ridership numbers are abysmal.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 19:15     Subject: Re:Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

If I’m going somewhere and I want it to take an extremely long time, I take the subway or bus. Otherwise, I drive.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 18:09     Subject: Congrats D.C. - we've hit 50% pre-pandemic ridership totals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does this count everyone who jumps the gates? See 25-30 people doing this every trip.


Even with the new gates?



The gates make zero difference. There is a big difference on days when a cop is standing there.


Those are pretty big dips to call "no difference". I wonder how they track the jumpers.


If you believe the dips. The jumper numbers are invented.