Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 00:38     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
the NESCACs and similar LAC peers (mostly minus Amherst and Williams, which are almost on par with the Ivies) most certainly, so Colby, Bates, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colgate, Hamilton, Swarthmore, etc.

St Andrews in Scotland - especially for the prep school kids. It seems to be a top choice for the ones who got screwed by the admissions process and wanted to choose something totally different.

NYU/USC/BU/Northeastern

Top-tier flagships - UMich, UVa, UC Berkeley, UCLA

Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 23:50     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools like Elon and Northeastern have absorbed higher tier applicants in the recent past as compared to their historical past.

Also some of the flagships like Michigan and Wisconsin are much harder to get into today as compared to 15 or 30 years ago.


Is Elon playing the same games with rankings as Northeastern?


Elon is not remotely close to being an ivy academically. Does have some wealthy kids going to school there.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 23:48     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
No I don’t think everyone would have adapted to the new landscape. The admit rates are a fraction of what they were. Many would adapt and go to different schools.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 23:45     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools like Elon and Northeastern have absorbed higher tier applicants in the recent past as compared to their historical past.

Also some of the flagships like Michigan and Wisconsin are much harder to get into today as compared to 15 or 30 years ago.


Is Elon playing the same games with rankings as Northeastern?


People who used to go to Ivys are NOT going to Elon. Northeastern, yes. ELon, no.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 23:39     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At my DD's private, the ones who did not get into Ivies (thankfully she did)-- the Ivy rejects went to:

*NE SLACs
*Stanford
*MIT
*Duke
*Northwestern
*U of Chicago
*Georgetown

The bottom of the class went to state flagships:

*U of Mich
*UVA
*UCLA
*UC Berkeley


I know you've been checking the thread to see if anyone would take your bait with this post. Not going to happen...


+1 one of the few times I’m proud of DCUM. Didn’t fall for the obvious bait when many of the schools listed (ie Stanford MIT Duke etc) are preferred over many if not most ivies.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 23:38     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Pomona (and Claremont)
Tufts
Bucknell (finance)
Lehigh (finance and engineering)
Emory
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 23:23     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:At my DD's private, the ones who did not get into Ivies (thankfully she did)-- the Ivy rejects went to:

*NE SLACs
*Stanford
*MIT
*Duke
*Northwestern
*U of Chicago
*Georgetown

The bottom of the class went to state flagships:

*U of Mich
*UVA
*UCLA
*UC Berkeley


I know you've been checking the thread to see if anyone would take your bait with this post. Not going to happen...
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 23:20     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
HYPS grad. Friends kids going to
Tufts
Tulane
Bates
BC
Middlebury
BU
Northwestern
Columbia
Williams
Vassar
Vandy
Georgetown
Wisconsin

Different world but definitely some legacy admits out there and some recruited for rich kid sports so there’s that. They’ll all be fine
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 21:45     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Beginning with the recession in 2009, many people began to figure out that state flagships are just as capable as 'elite' universities of educating strong students.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 21:38     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The kids who got into ivy 20 years ago would largely no longer be competitive today.


Don't you think the Ivy students of 20 years ago would adapt to be competitive in the new landscape?


The admission rates are much lower now. Many more qualified applications. It used to be relatively easy to get into Ivy compared to now.

There is no way, overall, they could just adapt.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 21:36     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
I know two Yale grads whose son is going to Radford….
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 21:35     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At my DD's private, the ones who did not get into Ivies (thankfully she did)-- the Ivy rejects went to:

*NE SLACs
*Stanford
*MIT
*Duke
*Northwestern
*U of Chicago
*Georgetown

The bottom of the class went to state flagships:

*U of Mich
*UVA
*UCLA
*UC Berkeley


that's fascinating, that the bottom of your kid's class has an average GPA > 3.9, the number necessary to be in the mix for Cal (source: https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/08/08/releases-20230801 ). This suggest that everyone not "in the bottom" of this Lake Woebegon class has a 1600/36 and a 4.0 UW.



Unless of course, you're a troll

Not a troll!



There is no way that the bottom of the class is getting into Cal and UCLA OOS.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 21:35     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:The kids who got into ivy 20 years ago would largely no longer be competitive today.


Don't you think the Ivy students of 20 years ago would adapt to be competitive in the new landscape?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 21:33     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At my DD's private, the ones who did not get into Ivies (thankfully she did)-- the Ivy rejects went to:

*NE SLACs
*Stanford
*MIT
*Duke
*Northwestern
*U of Chicago
*Georgetown

The bottom of the class went to state flagships:

*U of Mich
*UVA
*UCLA
*UC Berkeley


that's fascinating, that the bottom of your kid's class has an average GPA > 3.9, the number necessary to be in the mix for Cal (source: https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/08/08/releases-20230801 ). This suggest that everyone not "in the bottom" of this Lake Woebegon class has a 1600/36 and a 4.0 UW.



Unless of course, you're a troll

Not a troll!

Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 21:29     Subject: Where do the kids who used to feed into the Ivy League go now?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's a really specific answer for OP, based on the 19-21-year0old children of friends, <--- ALL of whom graduated from an Ivy undergrad in the 80s:

Rice
Tufts
Wash U
UCLA
Vanderbilt
U. Chicago
Brown
Amherst
Lafayette


This list is in line with my experience. Also:

Williams
Bowdoin
Duke
NYU
BC
Georgetown
Colby
Davidson



I know kids of dual Ivy grads who are matriculating at:

Syracuse
Bucknell
Penn State
Oregon

Once you miss the legacy spot you're in the pool with the masses and it can be a total crap shoot.


+1

HYPS alum here and my friends' kids go to:

Berkeley/UCLA
Northwestern
Oberlin
UNC Chapel Hill
Emory
UConn
Rutgers
Brown
Bates
Boston College
WashU
UT Austin

My kid goes to Macalester, which is a school I'd never heard of until my daughter started applying for colleges. I'm very impressed with the education she's getting and have been a bit envious in some aspects!