Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 11:39     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
There was a saying in the Soviet Union: you pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 11:38     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:There have always been slackers. It’s easy to do when you are in your 20s with few responsibilities or are otherwise unencumbered.

Think bohemians. Hippies. Etc etc.

Then biology takes over and you want to procreate and then you step it up with work.


You could not be more wrong. Most people in their twenties have grown up in an era of surveillance. Keystroke loggers and algorithms to measure productivity and rubrics and metrics. Hard to get away with much. It is you old folks who get away with slacking.

But the problem with all the metrics is if people find out what the specific minimum is that you have to do to not get fired or get promoted or whatever then that becomes the standard. If you must respond to emails within 24 hours then that means you don’t have to reply immediately, etc.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 10:46     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Because on your deathbed, it won’t matter how many hours you worked, or how you hustled to make it big in your field. Life is too short to spend on an endless chase for professional glory.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:38     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:It’s wage and lifestyle transparency revealed by the internet. We now see so many people who make ridiculous money for nonsense jobs (much of finance, banking, sales) where they are just taking huge rent seeking without actually adding value. And we have a clearer idea of how people got to these positions (LinkedIn, Google, ancestry etc) showing family pedigree, private high schools, etc. very rare to see a small town girl from Iowa killing it at a hedge fund, for example.

Meanwhile, the worker bees now realize that the game is rigged, that the idea of working harder and advancing was a carrot on an ever growing stick. Hard work can help, and is necessary from certain starting positions, but the game is rigged and most people know it more clearly now.


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Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:37     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:The head of my department is very proRTO. But that's in between his "business" trips all over the world and US. His face is not necessary in those "important meetings" - he just likes to travel and does it on the company dime. He also likes having boot lickers stop by his office to pump his ego.

So, no - I'm not leaning in.


Our COO is the biggest RTO cheerleader. He spends at least half the year in Florida ‘working’
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:25     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
The head of my department is very proRTO. But that's in between his "business" trips all over the world and US. His face is not necessary in those "important meetings" - he just likes to travel and does it on the company dime. He also likes having boot lickers stop by his office to pump his ego.

So, no - I'm not leaning in.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:25     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
On the flip side, I'm trying to get a job as a 40+ woman (not a particularly high paying job). I want to work in an office and it's nothing but crickets.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:25     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That’s why I poop on company time
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:24     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
There have always been slackers. It’s easy to do when you are in your 20s with few responsibilities or are otherwise unencumbered.

Think bohemians. Hippies. Etc etc.

Then biology takes over and you want to procreate and then you step it up with work.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:21     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because being a victim gives them something to complain about. Sign of a declining society. Sure, call me old and crotchety but something is different. The USA is floundering.


That is a spillover effect of rampant inequality. Not sure what the gini coefficient is now for the USA but not long ago it was on the cusp of the point where revolution becomes likely (historically speaking). I am not exaggerating.

One more reason to tax the rich a helluva lot more.


Yep. Read “End Times” by Peter Turchin. Very interesting stuff.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:20     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:Alright, alright, alright!

(GenX has a bone to pick about this GenZ inventing slacking bullshit).


Ha!
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:19     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:A society which could be structured in such a way as to guarantee everyone decent treated is instead designed to funnel maximum resources to the ultra-wealthy at the expense of ordinary people.

So yes, don’t be surprised if people don’t relish their oppression and fight back with whatever weapons they can.


Yep. The wealth pump is real.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:16     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:Because being a victim gives them something to complain about. Sign of a declining society. Sure, call me old and crotchety but something is different. The USA is floundering.


That is a spillover effect of rampant inequality. Not sure what the gini coefficient is now for the USA but not long ago it was on the cusp of the point where revolution becomes likely (historically speaking). I am not exaggerating.

One more reason to tax the rich a helluva lot more.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:12     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Alright, alright, alright!

(GenX has a bone to pick about this GenZ inventing slacking bullshit).
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 09:00     Subject: Why is slacking now cool?
Anonymous wrote:No one is exaggerating time spent on coffee breaks, chatting, and walking around in the office. Lunches in office are easily 1-2 hours and even before that you're likely walking to get a coffee with multiple coworkers.


Millennials didn't invent the "3 martini lunch"