A not-very-academic kid I know is going into her sophomore year, and doing *really* well in that environment, much better than her parents expected. Also very much enjoying the experience.

I think she'd have been eaten alive at GMU, which was one of her other alternatives; the smaller community and less rigorous courses is working wonders.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish UMW was even a possibility for us - it doesn't have EITHER of the programs my daughter is looking for.

A cute little instate school an hour from home close to a historic walkable town would be an absolute dream for all of us.

Oh, well - we're not UNhappy with her options. And even the private options in state for her aren't too bad (the VTAG money will be nice)

Just...sigh.

I know you have Shenandoah on your list. That is where my DD is entering her second year for nursing. She really likes it, and the Winchester historic district is nice.

That's great! We honestly have to hope for a talent scholarship to afford it, but the Conservatory is a big draw for her. She got to meet a couple of the instructors already, saw a performance in the spring and that is probably her dream school. I just hope they accept her!

She has 2 of the schools on her list that actually get a lot of mentions for her performing art - the other is in MA. Winchester would definitely be preferable just from a distance perspective!

We came out for a visit to Old Town Winchester a couple years ago with my MIL and our niece and nephew. Had a really nice afternoon out there. It is a very cute area.

I hope it works out for you. Some pieces of information that might help you decide: during DD’s first year, her general education classes had between 8 and 15 students. They start off finals week with a late night breakfast offering at the dining hall. During finals week they schedule time for some baby goats and miniature horses to walk about campus to reduce student stress.

Two members of my in law extended family currently attend there. They both said they don’t love it, but it’s okay. They said the area is really boring and there is nothing to do.
One is getting significant financial aid (I think it might even be a full scholarship).

We toured in July prior to my '22 daughter's senior year. Brought her transcript, attended on an instant read day, and following the tour they brought her and I into a small office to meet with an admissions officer and they offered her admission (and a T-shirt) on the spot. She had to apply later for honors (received, along with a large amount of merit money). It was never in contention, but took off some of the pressure starting senior year knowing she was already in somewhere. Far too rural for her taste, but the freshman dorms were great. The single cafeteria food option left a lot to be desired. People were nice. I could see how it could be a nice low-key fit for the right kid. I've known kids from my children's RVA area school who were very happy there, and others who transferred out after a year. I believe the stats a few years ago were something like 97% of students came from VA. Not much diversity at all.

Anonymous wrote:Also FarmVille is not as desirable a location

+1 BF Egypt.

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Anonymous wrote:Oddly, based on the things I have seen, Longwood has better overall stats for admitted students than ODU and Radford.

For the pp with a kid interested in a fairly small school in a rural area, might Emory & Henry be of interest? We just added it last minute to my child's list sight unseen. No app fee, so throwing it in just to see what happens.

Our list in VA (for a kid with stats that are not so good) is ODU, Radford, Shenandoah, Randolph and now E&H.

ODU’s stats are higher than Longwood’s. Not by much, but they are.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

No, the GPA range for Longwood is notably higher than for ODU. (Plus test score averages can be deceptive because so many applicants don't submit them.)

+1 And the GPA range is not much different than the range for UMW and CNU, yet UMW and CNU are mentioned more often.

Please don’t tell me we are now going to argue that LU is in the same league as UMW and CNU admissions wise. It just isn’t. I get that you like the school and that’s great. But like it for what it is, not for what it isn’t.

Proof?

Please stop. You’re on all these threads all the time arguing that fourth tier VA state schools are Harvard.

You said Longwood is not in the same league as UMW and CNU without any evidence. Not sure why Harvard was mentioned.

I know two young people who graduated about 5 years ago. They really liked it. One went for the education program and thought it was great and able to graduate without much debt. The other had been an incpnsistent student in HS — very smart but has some tough semesters personally and the GPA was not great. A smaller school was really a great fit for them because they needed a little more support than would have received at a big school or trying to do the community college than transfer route. Did well and went on to a solid grad school program and a great career. It is quite remote! I think it fits a real need and, for the right kid, is a great school.
I recommended it on another thread where a VA resident was wondering what to do with a kid that did not have a great GPA. I think a school like Longwood makes a lot more sense than paying a ton to go to some third tier private school out of state, which seems like what most of the kids with middling GPAs do.

Isn't Longwood in a Dry County?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish UMW was even a possibility for us - it doesn't have EITHER of the programs my daughter is looking for.

A cute little instate school an hour from home close to a historic walkable town would be an absolute dream for all of us.

Oh, well - we're not UNhappy with her options. And even the private options in state for her aren't too bad (the VTAG money will be nice)

Just...sigh.

I know you have Shenandoah on your list. That is where my DD is entering her second year for nursing. She really likes it, and the Winchester historic district is nice.

That's great! We honestly have to hope for a talent scholarship to afford it, but the Conservatory is a big draw for her. She got to meet a couple of the instructors already, saw a performance in the spring and that is probably her dream school. I just hope they accept her!

She has 2 of the schools on her list that actually get a lot of mentions for her performing art - the other is in MA. Winchester would definitely be preferable just from a distance perspective!

We came out for a visit to Old Town Winchester a couple years ago with my MIL and our niece and nephew. Had a really nice afternoon out there. It is a very cute area.

I know a boy at Shenandoah for music (voice and music education) and he really likes it. Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:I wish UMW was even a possibility for us - it doesn't have EITHER of the programs my daughter is looking for.

A cute little instate school an hour from home close to a historic walkable town would be an absolute dream for all of us.

Oh, well - we're not UNhappy with her options. And even the private options in state for her aren't too bad (the VTAG money will be nice)

Just...sigh.

I know you have Shenandoah on your list. That is where my DD is entering her second year for nursing. She really likes it, and the Winchester historic district is nice.

That's great! We honestly have to hope for a talent scholarship to afford it, but the Conservatory is a big draw for her. She got to meet a couple of the instructors already, saw a performance in the spring and that is probably her dream school. I just hope they accept her!

She has 2 of the schools on her list that actually get a lot of mentions for her performing art - the other is in MA. Winchester would definitely be preferable just from a distance perspective!

We came out for a visit to Old Town Winchester a couple years ago with my MIL and our niece and nephew. Had a really nice afternoon out there. It is a very cute area.

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Anonymous wrote:Oddly, based on the things I have seen, Longwood has better overall stats for admitted students than ODU and Radford.

For the pp with a kid interested in a fairly small school in a rural area, might Emory & Henry be of interest? We just added it last minute to my child's list sight unseen. No app fee, so throwing it in just to see what happens.

Our list in VA (for a kid with stats that are not so good) is ODU, Radford, Shenandoah, Randolph and now E&H.

ODU’s stats are higher than Longwood’s. Not by much, but they are.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

No, the GPA range for Longwood is notably higher than for ODU. (Plus test score averages can be deceptive because so many applicants don't submit them.)

+1 And the GPA range is not much different than the range for UMW and CNU, yet UMW and CNU are mentioned more often.

Please don’t tell me we are now going to argue that LU is in the same league as UMW and CNU admissions wise. It just isn’t. I get that you like the school and that’s great. But like it for what it is, not for what it isn’t.

Proof?

Please stop. You’re on all these threads all the time arguing that fourth tier VA state schools are Harvard.

Anonymous wrote:I wish UMW was even a possibility for us - it doesn't have EITHER of the programs my daughter is looking for.

A cute little instate school an hour from home close to a historic walkable town would be an absolute dream for all of us.

Oh, well - we're not UNhappy with her options. And even the private options in state for her aren't too bad (the VTAG money will be nice)

Just...sigh.

I know you have Shenandoah on your list. That is where my DD is entering her second year for nursing. She really likes it, and the Winchester historic district is nice.

most people outside the state think it is a private school

same with radford

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Anonymous wrote:Oddly, based on the things I have seen, Longwood has better overall stats for admitted students than ODU and Radford.

For the pp with a kid interested in a fairly small school in a rural area, might Emory & Henry be of interest? We just added it last minute to my child's list sight unseen. No app fee, so throwing it in just to see what happens.

Our list in VA (for a kid with stats that are not so good) is ODU, Radford, Shenandoah, Randolph and now E&H.

ODU’s stats are higher than Longwood’s. Not by much, but they are.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.ASP

No, the GPA range for Longwood is notably higher than for ODU. (Plus test score averages can be deceptive because so many applicants don't submit them.)

+1 And the GPA range is not much different than the range for UMW and CNU, yet UMW and CNU are mentioned more often.

Please don’t tell me we are now going to argue that LU is in the same league as UMW and CNU admissions wise. It just isn’t. I get that you like the school and that’s great. But like it for what it is, not for what it isn’t.

Proof?

Anonymous wrote:Longwood is one of the weakest, if not the weakest University in the State system.

Used to be an excellent state teacher's college for women.