Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 21:08     Subject: Re:Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:OP, you’re not from the Washington area and need to understand something. You are on a website full of super competitive and frankly jealous women who are all scrambling to get their kids into the college that most impresses their “friends” and Biglaw colleagues. They’re going to tear apart your son’s “stats” and make you believe that he’ll be lucky if he gets into community college.

The fact is that your son has EXCELLENT numbers and is 100 percent GUARANTEED to get into NC State at a minimum. And NC State is a fantastic engineering school and a lot of fun as well. He’s also highly likely to get into several other schools on your list.

You’ve done a good job with him and should sign off this website and relax. Don’t let these crazy women get you down.

Thank you for your comment. I needed to hear that.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 21:07     Subject: Re:Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:Would he be happy attending NC State? What is he looking for that would make a different target or safety school worth spending more the NC State which costs 27K in-state?

If NC State is a good fit, I don’t think he needs any more safeties/targets. If he putting NC State on the list because he could make it work but he really wants to study an engineering discipline that isn’t a strength at NC State, work in a different part of the country or industry post college, has a secondary interest he wants to pursue (like business and engineering) or something else that makes State an okay but not great fit, let us know what it is so we can suggest other schools.


Yes, he would be happy at NC State. He did engineering internship last summer and loved it. And thank you for answering my question if he should add more safety/ targets or not.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 21:00     Subject: Re:Need help with College List
Would he be happy attending NC State? What is he looking for that would make a different target or safety school worth spending more the NC State which costs 27K in-state?

If NC State is a good fit, I don’t think he needs any more safeties/targets. If he putting NC State on the list because he could make it work but he really wants to study an engineering discipline that isn’t a strength at NC State, work in a different part of the country or industry post college, has a secondary interest he wants to pursue (like business and engineering) or something else that makes State an okay but not great fit, let us know what it is so we can suggest other schools.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:56     Subject: Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t NCState a safety with those stats? I have 2 nephews who got in to NCState engineering recently (in state) with much lower scores than that. They were coming from public schools.


Yes it’s a safety along with Clemson and VT. His school has 100% acceptance to these schools with his stats.


DP. It's always the people who label schools "safeties" who don't get into them.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:55     Subject: Need help with College List
When looking at SCOIR, narrow it to last 2 years and discount any schools not including 10 or more kids and where kids are not applying to engineering
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:53     Subject: Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the UW GPA? I find the list odd for Engineering….USC? Duke? For engineering, I’d consider schools like CMU, Cornell, CalTech, Harvey Mudd, Lehigh, UCLA, University of Washington, Santa Clara


What type of engineering. University of Illinois is tops for civil engineering, UMD is tops for aerospace, etc.


Um, no. Georgia Tech is #1 for aerospace engineering (tied with MIT). Berkeley is #1 for civil. And yes, these are undergrad programs:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-aerospace-aeronautical-astronautical
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-civil
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:47     Subject: Need help with College List
Agree with adding a smaller school(s) like WPI, RIT, Union, Bucknell, Rose-Hulman. These schools may offer merit making cost of attendance comparable to the oos public’s.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:46     Subject: Re:Need help with College List
OP, you’re not from the Washington area and need to understand something. You are on a website full of super competitive and frankly jealous women who are all scrambling to get their kids into the college that most impresses their “friends” and Biglaw colleagues. They’re going to tear apart your son’s “stats” and make you believe that he’ll be lucky if he gets into community college.

The fact is that your son has EXCELLENT numbers and is 100 percent GUARANTEED to get into NC State at a minimum. And NC State is a fantastic engineering school and a lot of fun as well. He’s also highly likely to get into several other schools on your list.

You’ve done a good job with him and should sign off this website and relax. Don’t let these crazy women get you down.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:43     Subject: Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:I see possibles as NC State, VT and Clemson. Then everything else you have mentioned as a pipe dream (UNC is tough if not top 10%). I’d add 3-4 targets using the 3.7 GPA estimate…maybe Drexel, WPI, RIT, Fordham


Btw, scoir shows 95% of kids with my kids stats got into unc from his school. Goes to say that 10% at one school is not the same as 10% at another school.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:41     Subject: Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:I see possibles as NC State, VT and Clemson. Then everything else you have mentioned as a pipe dream (UNC is tough if not top 10%). I’d add 3-4 targets using the 3.7 GPA estimate…maybe Drexel, WPI, RIT, Fordham

Thanks, these are all expensive schools and I am not sure if they are better than NC state. Scoir shows 100% admission chance to RIT, WPI, Lehigh. Didn’t check Drexel and fordham since it was not on his initial list.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:41     Subject: Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok. His GPA is really a 3.7 and he isn’t top 10% of his class. Reality check. USC, Lehigh, CMU, Cornell, Cal Tech, Purdue are all reaches and highly unlikely. I wouldn’t waste REA on Princeton as it’s not happening. I’d also write off Duke as he isn’t top 10% and it’s not great for engineering. I also have no idea why you’d not pay OOS at a top engineering school but would pay for Duke. The CU Boulder suggestion is a good one but take a look at the stats because engineering admits had around 4.0 GPAs


Not all 4.0s are equal. This gpa is from a rigorous private school and that’s why I mentioned in my earlier post. Most public schools don’t have +- and to even get A-, he has to work way harder at this school versus if he was in public school. He has all 5s in AP exams but A- in most of those classes.

Our school has 100% admit rate (yes 100%) to CU bolder including kids with 2.5 gaps. That’s why I am saying not all gaps are similar.


If those aren’t engineering admits in the last 2 years, the prior stats are basically useless and if it’s too small of a sample size it’s also not a very good predictor. Also keep in mind your kid is competing with other private school kids and kids from very rigorous publics, it’s not simply NC public schools.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:38     Subject: Need help with College List
I meant GPAs not gap.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:38     Subject: Need help with College List
I see possibles as NC State, VT and Clemson. Then everything else you have mentioned as a pipe dream (UNC is tough if not top 10%). I’d add 3-4 targets using the 3.7 GPA estimate…maybe Drexel, WPI, RIT, Fordham
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:37     Subject: Need help with College List
Anonymous wrote:Ok. His GPA is really a 3.7 and he isn’t top 10% of his class. Reality check. USC, Lehigh, CMU, Cornell, Cal Tech, Purdue are all reaches and highly unlikely. I wouldn’t waste REA on Princeton as it’s not happening. I’d also write off Duke as he isn’t top 10% and it’s not great for engineering. I also have no idea why you’d not pay OOS at a top engineering school but would pay for Duke. The CU Boulder suggestion is a good one but take a look at the stats because engineering admits had around 4.0 GPAs


Not all 4.0s are equal. This gpa is from a rigorous private school and that’s why I mentioned in my earlier post. Most public schools don’t have +- and to even get A-, he has to work way harder at this school versus if he was in public school. He has all 5s in AP exams but A- in most of those classes.

Our school has 100% admit rate (yes 100%) to CU bolder including kids with 2.5 gaps. That’s why I am saying not all gaps are similar.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 20:37     Subject: Need help with College List
“I also have no idea why you’d not pay OOS at a top engineering school but would pay for Duke.”

+1