Anonymous wrote:1 year TOO LATE!! My kid : foiled again

Kid had an interview with one Ivy that said in 10 years tuition will be free for everyone...that's the goal. I'm sure that will happen one day after us/kid have taken out thousands of dollars in loans to pay $360-400k.

Which Ivy?

Anonymous wrote:1 year TOO LATE!! My kid : foiled again

Kid had an interview with one Ivy that said in 10 years tuition will be free for everyone...that's the goal. I'm sure that will happen one day after us/kid have taken out thousands of dollars in loans to pay $360-400k.

Firstborn/non-legacy will get in UVA this year, and then sibling won't benefit the following year.

You know how this works, right?? lol

1 year TOO LATE!! My kid : foiled again

Kid had an interview with one Ivy that said in 10 years tuition will be free for everyone...that's the goal. I'm sure that will happen one day after us/kid have taken out thousands of dollars in loans to pay $360-400k.

Anonymous wrote:Well, looks like it will be official soon - no more legacy at UVA.

https://www.collegesolutions.com/blog-articles/virginia-moves-to-end-legacy-admissions-what-parents-and-students-need-to-know

Hurray!!!!!

Well, looks like it will be official soon - no more legacy at UVA.

https://www.collegesolutions.com/blog-articles/virginia-moves-to-end-legacy-admissions-what-parents-and-students-need-to-know

Anonymous wrote:UVA definitely considers legacy and it matters A LOT, especially for OOS. Dean J has confirmed this. Anecdotally, admissions this year at my kid's school (referred to on here as a Big 3) absolutely, conclusively confirmed this.

Yes, there are quite a few OOS legacy admit kids from my kids' Big3 this past year who were no where near the top of the class (had never made it to calculus in high school, had quite a few C's etc) but their parents are very wealthy.
There were also quite a few top 10% OOS non-legacy kids attending and some OOS middle-of-the-pack non-legacies attending as well.

It was a wide distribution.

Anonymous wrote:UVA definitely considers legacy and it matters A LOT, especially for OOS. Dean J has confirmed this. Anecdotally, admissions this year at my kid's school (referred to on here as a Big 3) absolutely, conclusively confirmed this.

But no more ….

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has its own office dedicated to legacy admissions. OMG. https://s3.amazonaws.com/uva-alumni-association/alp/ALP-Booklet-2019.pdf

That program was part of the Alumni Association, not the Admissions office. It’s been rebranded as College Compass and clearly states that it has no bearing on admissions outcomes:

https://alumni.virginia.edu/college-compass/

I'm an alum (undergrad and grad) and my husband is an alum too. We has our kid participate in this program and they made it VERY clear that it was part of the Alumni Association and NOT Admissions. We did the Sophomore review of transcripts and school profile. It was fine - got our kid thinking about class selections etc but it wasn't like we got some secret to the application process. They did stress to take the most challenging courses your school allows for but I think everyone knows that. Perhaps it will count as "demonstrated interest?" But otherwise, a fairly underwhelming 30 minutes.

UVA definitely considers legacy and it matters A LOT, especially for OOS. Dean J has confirmed this. Anecdotally, admissions this year at my kid's school (referred to on here as a Big 3) absolutely, conclusively confirmed this.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA puts OOS legacy applicants in the instate pool of applicant where their odds of gaining an offer of admission are better. This is NO secret. It’s been this way for decades.

I’ve heard them say this isn’t the case at the alumni meeting. You have a better chance, but you aren’t counted as in state.

UVA has admitted they give extra consideration for OOS legacies (not a break on tuition). They also have been caught admitting they give HUGE advantages to big donors, but what else is new. Being an instate legacy isn't much of an advantage if at all.

Very very very old stories. IMHE with parents, UVA dropped the emphasis in legacy about 6 years ago. Many legacies have not been getting in. And, yes, the applicants are top stats students

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Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

UVA isn't diverse to begin with so this is funny!

+1

If you claim to be a minority, you will get in to UVA these days - they are that desperate.

That isn't ... how ... it ... works. I mean, you can't agree that UVA lacks diversity and then make that statement. It doesn't make sense.

haha so true +1. Have any of the PP's even been on grounds recently? I have, and every time, I feel that I'M in the minority (in a good way) as a white woman. They have really emphasized this over the past 10 years and it does show.

+1 and I’m there

Anonymous wrote:UVA has its own office dedicated to legacy admissions. OMG. https://s3.amazonaws.com/uva-alumni-association/alp/ALP-Booklet-2019.pdf

That program was part of the Alumni Association, not the Admissions office. It’s been rebranded as College Compass and clearly states that it has no bearing on admissions outcomes:

https://alumni.virginia.edu/college-compass/

UVA has its own office dedicated to legacy admissions. OMG. https://s3.amazonaws.com/uva-alumni-association/alp/ALP-Booklet-2019.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:UVA puts OOS legacy applicants in the instate pool of applicant where their odds of gaining an offer of admission are better. This is NO secret. It’s been this way for decades.

I’ve heard them say this isn’t the case at the alumni meeting. You have a better chance, but you aren’t counted as in state.

UVA has admitted they give extra consideration for OOS legacies (not a break on tuition). They also have been caught admitting they give HUGE advantages to big donors, but what else is new. Being an instate legacy isn't much of an advantage if at all.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how they are getting rid of legacy preference which is HUGE at UVA for OOS applicants. If you're OOS and a leg, you get put into the instate pool.

This is absolutely false.