Anonymous
Post 08/01/2023 11:11     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers, do you have these in your e-mail signature and why or why not?

Pronouns, degree(s), land acknowledgment, inspirational quote, etc


Land acknowledgment? Wtf? What on earth does that mean?


This has been huge in Canada and Australia for the past few years.


Yup - just got back from Australia. Every time we landed, the FA announced something along the lines of "we recognize we have just landed on XYZ indigenous land and honor the elders past, present, and emerging."
It was interesting, but not sure what the point was... how are they actually honoring indigenous elders? They aren't, of course.
I've heard it at a few conferences in the US in the last few years.
Again, interesting, but unless you are actually going to make some meaningful change or contribution in your life it seems... pointless.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2023 01:06     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why use pronouns if you (presumably) use Mr. or Mrs.?


I don't use Mr. or Mrs. My pronouns are she/her/hers and the titles Mrs/Miss are leftover from a patriarchal society in which women did not have their own name. I am most certainly not Mrs. DHFirstName DHLastName (a vestige of the days when women had no credit themselves and signed their DH's name, the name on the account, but with Mrs in front -- hard to believe, but when I was born in 1970, no women had credit cards), nor am I Miss FirstName DadLastName. I'm Ms FirstName LastName if forced into a title, but I prefer to avoid it all around. I prefer FirstName LastName -- no one needs info about my gender or marital status in my signature.

Even with my annoyance with the misogynistic origins of Mrs/Miss aside, "Mr. or Mrs." titles reinforce a binary that 1) doesn't exist, and 2) harms some of my nonbinary colleagues. So -- I support everyone normalizing the use of pronouns.


I'm sorry life is so difficult for you.

But not sorry I don't use pronouns.


Sweetheart, in all sincerity, no one, and I do mean no one, cares about you.


you are cringe and your signature is in comic sans.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 23:22     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why use pronouns if you (presumably) use Mr. or Mrs.?


I don't use Mr. or Mrs. My pronouns are she/her/hers and the titles Mrs/Miss are leftover from a patriarchal society in which women did not have their own name. I am most certainly not Mrs. DHFirstName DHLastName (a vestige of the days when women had no credit themselves and signed their DH's name, the name on the account, but with Mrs in front -- hard to believe, but when I was born in 1970, no women had credit cards), nor am I Miss FirstName DadLastName. I'm Ms FirstName LastName if forced into a title, but I prefer to avoid it all around. I prefer FirstName LastName -- no one needs info about my gender or marital status in my signature.

Even with my annoyance with the misogynistic origins of Mrs/Miss aside, "Mr. or Mrs." titles reinforce a binary that 1) doesn't exist, and 2) harms some of my nonbinary colleagues. So -- I support everyone normalizing the use of pronouns.


One time my non-binary colleague complained of a sharp stabbing sensation in her chest and we though she was having a cardiac emergency. Turns out someone in accounting had referred to someone else as "Mr." earlier that day.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 23:22     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why use pronouns if you (presumably) use Mr. or Mrs.?


I don't use Mr. or Mrs. My pronouns are she/her/hers and the titles Mrs/Miss are leftover from a patriarchal society in which women did not have their own name. I am most certainly not Mrs. DHFirstName DHLastName (a vestige of the days when women had no credit themselves and signed their DH's name, the name on the account, but with Mrs in front -- hard to believe, but when I was born in 1970, no women had credit cards), nor am I Miss FirstName DadLastName. I'm Ms FirstName LastName if forced into a title, but I prefer to avoid it all around. I prefer FirstName LastName -- no one needs info about my gender or marital status in my signature.

Even with my annoyance with the misogynistic origins of Mrs/Miss aside, "Mr. or Mrs." titles reinforce a binary that 1) doesn't exist, and 2) harms some of my nonbinary colleagues. So -- I support everyone normalizing the use of pronouns.


I'm sorry life is so difficult for you.

But not sorry I don't use pronouns.


Sweetheart, in all sincerity, no one, and I do mean no one, cares about you.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 23:21     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Not surprising that some of the most incompetent teachers have overly long signatures with irrelevant information.

Name, workplace(s), contact info, and relevant degree is all you need, maybe pronouns if your environment is woke or your name is weird and nobody can figure out your gender. Land acknowledgment is useless unless you are time traveling to fight alongside the Indians.


Oops, you said “woke.” How embarrassing for you.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 23:20     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:I refuse to list pronouns. I’m not normalizing that. Fight me.


No one cares what you “refuse.” No one cares to “fight you.” You’re not that important.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 23:17     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:I’m in local government and our signature block has to follow a set standard. No funky fonts or colors or personal or meaningful quotes. Some have put in pronouns - not required.

Larla P. Larlington
Program Manager
Widget Distribution Division
Municipal Park Drive, Suite 500

Then the whole privacy statement blah blah if you’ve received this email in error blah blah blah


+1 Keep it normal. Everyone trying to make their mark with cringey personal flair is just embarrassing themselves. People see a sig longer than the actual email and think you are unprofessional and not a person to go to for answers.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 22:49     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Name, title, confidentiality notice, and directions on how to translate this email, because everybody forgets to incorporate those who don’t speak English. Tempted to add land, formally occupied by indigenous tribe, as well as land formerly farmed on by slaves to my signature.


I work in aerospace. English is the international language of aviation. If they don't speak it, it's on them to find a translator.

Next.


It’s the LAW for PUBLIC school teachers and administrators to communicate to parents in a language they understand.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 21:29     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why use pronouns if you (presumably) use Mr. or Mrs.?


I don't use Mr. or Mrs. My pronouns are she/her/hers and the titles Mrs/Miss are leftover from a patriarchal society in which women did not have their own name. I am most certainly not Mrs. DHFirstName DHLastName (a vestige of the days when women had no credit themselves and signed their DH's name, the name on the account, but with Mrs in front -- hard to believe, but when I was born in 1970, no women had credit cards), nor am I Miss FirstName DadLastName. I'm Ms FirstName LastName if forced into a title, but I prefer to avoid it all around. I prefer FirstName LastName -- no one needs info about my gender or marital status in my signature.

Even with my annoyance with the misogynistic origins of Mrs/Miss aside, "Mr. or Mrs." titles reinforce a binary that 1) doesn't exist, and 2) harms some of my nonbinary colleagues.


You sound fun.


And respectful and dignified.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 21:27     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
I have a feminine name that I absolutely adore(Jacqueline). No need to state my pronouns. I prefer that I be called the name in my signature.

I only get offended and correct you if you decide to nickname me. That’s rude. I’m not Jack or Jackie.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 21:22     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why use pronouns if you (presumably) use Mr. or Mrs.?


I don't use Mr. or Mrs. My pronouns are she/her/hers and the titles Mrs/Miss are leftover from a patriarchal society in which women did not have their own name. I am most certainly not Mrs. DHFirstName DHLastName (a vestige of the days when women had no credit themselves and signed their DH's name, the name on the account, but with Mrs in front -- hard to believe, but when I was born in 1970, no women had credit cards), nor am I Miss FirstName DadLastName. I'm Ms FirstName LastName if forced into a title, but I prefer to avoid it all around. I prefer FirstName LastName -- no one needs info about my gender or marital status in my signature.

Even with my annoyance with the misogynistic origins of Mrs/Miss aside, "Mr. or Mrs." titles reinforce a binary that 1) doesn't exist, and 2) harms some of my nonbinary colleagues.


You sound fun.


Life must be so tough for you, PP quoted. Hugs.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 21:21     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
I’m in local government and our signature block has to follow a set standard. No funky fonts or colors or personal or meaningful quotes. Some have put in pronouns - not required.

Larla P. Larlington
Program Manager
Widget Distribution Division
Municipal Park Drive, Suite 500

Then the whole privacy statement blah blah if you’ve received this email in error blah blah blah
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 20:59     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Larla Smith (she/her, white)
8th Grade Language Arts Teacher | XYZ Middle School
Classroom phone: 555-555-5551
Google Voice (call or text): 555-555-5552

Image of Progress Pride Flag

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.


Your email signature is probably longer than a lot of your emails.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 20:58     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Name, title, confidentiality notice, and directions on how to translate this email, because everybody forgets to incorporate those who don’t speak English. Tempted to add land, formally occupied by indigenous tribe, as well as land formerly farmed on by slaves to my signature.


I work in aerospace. English is the international language of aviation. If they don't speak it, it's on them to find a translator.

Next.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 20:50     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why use pronouns if you (presumably) use Mr. or Mrs.?


I don't use Mr. or Mrs. My pronouns are she/her/hers and the titles Mrs/Miss are leftover from a patriarchal society in which women did not have their own name. I am most certainly not Mrs. DHFirstName DHLastName (a vestige of the days when women had no credit themselves and signed their DH's name, the name on the account, but with Mrs in front -- hard to believe, but when I was born in 1970, no women had credit cards), nor am I Miss FirstName DadLastName. I'm Ms FirstName LastName if forced into a title, but I prefer to avoid it all around. I prefer FirstName LastName -- no one needs info about my gender or marital status in my signature.

Even with my annoyance with the misogynistic origins of Mrs/Miss aside, "Mr. or Mrs." titles reinforce a binary that 1) doesn't exist, and 2) harms some of my nonbinary colleagues.


You sound fun.