Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 14:32     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

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Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


It depends on whether you are recruited to play a sport or not.


Which is exactly the problem with the home discussions. DH was a recruited, full-ride D1 athlete, so he doesn't see the lack of any EC's as an issue.


Well it’s not if you are a full ride D1 recruit. For everyone else it matters. So you and your kid have to be realistic about their prospects and plan accordingly.


I get that. It's just he loves his sport and knows taking on an EC in high school will mean losing it (same coach, club and school).

If your DS has the academic stats picking up a meaningless EC instead of continuing his commitment to a sport he loves isn’t going to make a difference.


I don't think this is correct.

So your plan is to make him dial back or quit something he loves at 13 years old so that he can stuff his HS schedule with ECs that mean nothing to him?
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 14:26     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

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Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


Not really. Harvard admissions officers often say they like applicants who are “lumpy.”
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 13:13     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


It depends on whether you are recruited to play a sport or not.


Which is exactly the problem with the home discussions. DH was a recruited, full-ride D1 athlete, so he doesn't see the lack of any EC's as an issue.


Well it’s not if you are a full ride D1 recruit. For everyone else it matters. So you and your kid have to be realistic about their prospects and plan accordingly.


I get that. It's just he loves his sport and knows taking on an EC in high school will mean losing it (same coach, club and school).

If your DS has the academic stats picking up a meaningless EC instead of continuing his commitment to a sport he loves isn’t going to make a difference.


I don't think this is correct.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 13:12     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


It depends on whether you are recruited to play a sport or not.


Which is exactly the problem with the home discussions. DH was a recruited, full-ride D1 athlete, so he doesn't see the lack of any EC's as an issue.


Well it’s not if you are a full ride D1 recruit. For everyone else it matters. So you and your kid have to be realistic about their prospects and plan accordingly.


I get that. It's just he loves his sport and knows taking on an EC in high school will mean losing it (same coach, club and school).

If your DS has the academic stats picking up a meaningless EC instead of continuing his commitment to a sport he loves isn’t going to make a difference.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 12:42     Subject: Re:Confused about purpose of intense schedule

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Anonymous wrote:The coaches job is to manage the team. Your job is to manage your child's schedule. The coach's job is to make sure that your child is the best swimmer that he can be. Not the most well rounded, or the best applicant for college, but the best swimmer. Your job is to do what you think is best for your child. If you want your child to be well-rounded, then take your child out of year-round swim and do only summer swim or find a less intense team/league. Then he can pursue other electives during the school year and seasonal swim during the summer. There are many kids to participate in one activity or elective, but do it well and they get into college and some even get scholarships for that elective. I also know plenty of kids who do summer swim only and then focus on other electives during the school year; and they go to college, too.

So you make the decisions that are right for your child. It's not up to the coach to do that.


I doubt summer swim only would be much fun for a HS kid - all the older kids still doing summer swim tend to be year round swimmers of one intensity level or another.


That is really pool dependent. For some kids, summer swim is a fun relaxing rec sport. In high school, it's a fun job coaching. Neither require year round club swim
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 12:28     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


It depends on whether you are recruited to play a sport or not.


Which is exactly the problem with the home discussions. DH was a recruited, full-ride D1 athlete, so he doesn't see the lack of any EC's as an issue.


Well it’s not if you are a full ride D1 recruit. For everyone else it matters. So you and your kid have to be realistic about their prospects and plan accordingly.


I get that. It's just he loves his sport and knows taking on an EC in high school will mean losing it (same coach, club and school).
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 10:09     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


It depends on whether you are recruited to play a sport or not.


Which is exactly the problem with the home discussions. DH was a recruited, full-ride D1 athlete, so he doesn't see the lack of any EC's as an issue.


Well it’s not if you are a full ride D1 recruit. For everyone else it matters. So you and your kid have to be realistic about their prospects and plan accordingly.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 08:22     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


It depends on whether you are recruited to play a sport or not.


Which is exactly the problem with the home discussions. DH was a recruited, full-ride D1 athlete, so he doesn't see the lack of any EC's as an issue.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 18:24     Subject: Re:Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:The coaches job is to manage the team. Your job is to manage your child's schedule. The coach's job is to make sure that your child is the best swimmer that he can be. Not the most well rounded, or the best applicant for college, but the best swimmer. Your job is to do what you think is best for your child. If you want your child to be well-rounded, then take your child out of year-round swim and do only summer swim or find a less intense team/league. Then he can pursue other electives during the school year and seasonal swim during the summer. There are many kids to participate in one activity or elective, but do it well and they get into college and some even get scholarships for that elective. I also know plenty of kids who do summer swim only and then focus on other electives during the school year; and they go to college, too.

So you make the decisions that are right for your child. It's not up to the coach to do that.


I doubt summer swim only would be much fun for a HS kid - all the older kids still doing summer swim tend to be year round swimmers of one intensity level or another.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 16:43     Subject: Re:Confused about purpose of intense schedule

The coaches job is to manage the team. Your job is to manage your child's schedule. The coach's job is to make sure that your child is the best swimmer that he can be. Not the most well rounded, or the best applicant for college, but the best swimmer. Your job is to do what you think is best for your child. If you want your child to be well-rounded, then take your child out of year-round swim and do only summer swim or find a less intense team/league. Then he can pursue other electives during the school year and seasonal swim during the summer. There are many kids to participate in one activity or elective, but do it well and they get into college and some even get scholarships for that elective. I also know plenty of kids who do summer swim only and then focus on other electives during the school year; and they go to college, too.

So you make the decisions that are right for your child. It's not up to the coach to do that.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 16:38     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

My kid is going to swim D1 and is what is called a "recruited walk-on," meaning no recruiting slot but coach wanted her on team. She did full club swimming with doubles throughout high school. Also did high school and summer swim where she showed leadership (captain of h.s. team). There wasn't tons of time for other activities, but she still did plenty. Lots of volunteer work and worked in summer, yearbook, and one other school activity.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 10:52     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


Depends on the college, but from what I understand, they don’t really care about kids being well rounded at this point. They care more about kids have a passionate area of interest.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 09:51     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

DD is a club swimmer. She’s now in the “less serious” high school tier. That still means 5 PMs a week plus Sunday AMs. How she handles it with other EC is that she goes to swim whenever she can. And sometimes she can’t. Band season she goes 3 times a week ideally (counting Sunday) by squeezing in swim on non-practice days or doing an AM session sometimes. She backslid during the fall but her main goal was not to fall too far behind where she was at peak July training level.

By winter she was better but also still splitting time some due to HS swim (less intense than club swim) practice and meet days.

She will never be tip top at it but still really likes it and remains focused on her own time improvement mostly.

Unless your kid loves and breathes for swim (as in they LOVE the sport with a passion), this is to me the most doable way to handle it by HS.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 08:03     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.


It depends on whether you are recruited to play a sport or not.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 07:49     Subject: Confused about purpose of intense schedule

Anonymous wrote:College admissions officers like to see sustained commitment to an activity.

They also like well-rounded.