Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 12:56     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ride a bike. It is better than an ev and no fees.


How long before someone says you are using the roads but aren’t paying any gas taxes to use those roads, so you should pay a fee?


We don't have an administrative system for bikes the way we have for vehicles (Department of Motor Vehicles, not Non-Motorized Vehicles). So the cost of setting up that administrative process would be much greater than the taxes collected on bikes. Google about Oregon's Bicycle Tax experience.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 12:53     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No thank you, we are helping the environment and should pay zero


Helping the environment?!
You mean all the toxic battery elements mined overseas then shipped here?
Then your batteries being charged by coal burning power plants?
Then these same batteries buried in land fills poisoning the land?
Yeah OK. Fool.


Don’t forget about the slave labor used for mining the cobalt used in the batteries.


Yes, and obviously we all know the petroleum extraction industry is 100 percent above-board in all climate and humanitarian areas and always has been.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 12:52     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ride a bike. It is better than an ev and no fees.


How long before someone says you are using the roads but aren’t paying any gas taxes to use those roads, so you should pay a fee?


I ride a bike sometimes and I drive an EV sometimes. I would be happy to pay road fees for the EV. I am not yet heavy enough that I feel like my bicycle and I are doing significant damage to the road by riding on it, though, so I would oppose road use fees for the bike...
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 12:39     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

A direct tax is the fairest tax.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 12:36     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:Ride a bike. It is better than an ev and no fees.


How long before someone says you are using the roads but aren’t paying any gas taxes to use those roads, so you should pay a fee?
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 10:43     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No thank you, we are helping the environment and should pay zero


Helping the environment?!
You mean all the toxic battery elements mined overseas then shipped here?
Then your batteries being charged by coal burning power plants?
Then these same batteries buried in land fills poisoning the land?
Yeah OK. Fool.


Don’t forget about the slave labor used for mining the cobalt used in the batteries.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 10:20     Subject: Re:Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

EV driver here who will happily pay my very reasonable highway use fee so that our public roadway infrastructure can be maintained.

It's always the anti-tax people who take public infrastructure for granted. Nothing in life is free.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 10:11     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:$130 for my Tesla, sorry this is crap , i should pay zero as I don't use gas, we're already getting raped by tolls


Let me guess: you have a "Don't tread on me" license plate.


And votes for orange clowns.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 10:07     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No thank you, we are helping the environment and should pay zero


You aren’t helping the environment. Look into how the metals used to make that battery were mined and shipped halfway around the world. The carbon footprint of those cars is scandalous.


It's true, building electric cars is more carbon-intensive than building gas cars -- as much as 80 percent more, according to MIT.

But also according to MIT, even accounting for the carbon emissions involved in manufacturing, EVs are still better for the climate than gas cars, because most carbon emissions involved in cars happens while you're driving them, not while they're being made.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars#:~:text=This%20intensive%20battery%20manufacturing%20means,a%20comparable%20gas%2Dpowered%20car.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 12:21     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:$130 for my Tesla, sorry this is crap , i should pay zero as I don't use gas, we're already getting raped by tolls


Let me guess: you have a "Don't tread on me" license plate.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 12:15     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 12:12     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:No thank you, we are helping the environment and should pay zero


You aren’t helping the environment. Look into how the metals used to make that battery were mined and shipped halfway around the world. The carbon footprint of those cars is scandalous.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 12:11     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:Ride a bike. It is better than an ev and no fees.


This.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 11:29     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Ride a bike. It is better than an ev and no fees.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 11:11     Subject: Virginia ev highway use fee outrageous

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No thank you, we are helping the environment and should pay zero


Helping the environment?!
You mean all the toxic battery elements mined overseas then shipped here?
Then your batteries being charged by coal burning power plants?
Then these same batteries buried in land fills poisoning the land?
Yeah OK. Fool.


Virginia electricity is natural gas and nuclear, "fool".


Enjoy your EV that is depreciating at light speed and will need a very expensive battery replacement in 4 years fool.


EV batteries don't degrade anywhere near as fast as you seem to think, and anyway, new ones come with an 8-year battery warranty.

Are EVs entirely without environmental downsides? No, of course not. Are they still better for the environment overall than gas cars? Yes. Personally, I have an EV, but I still try to avoid driving as much as possible -- walking, biking, and taking public transit are all better for the environment than driving an electric car are.