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Anonymous wrote:Wow. This makes me really glad I’m not at some of your pools. Our mcsl pool is a lovely experience with everyone pitching in and the high schools coaches are phenomenal with the kids.

Ha, same here. I wonder if I'm just oblivious to the drama or if my pool was drama free. As far as I could tell, it was all around great swim season, great coaching and nearly all of the kids enjoyed it. There are a few parents who take swimming way too seriously, but I tune that part out mostly.

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This makes me really glad I’m not at some of your pools. Our mcsl pool is a lovely experience with everyone pitching in and the high schools coaches are phenomenal with the kids.

Anonymous wrote:Heard a fair amount of "my kid beat your kid" talk amongst some parents. Didn't both me, since my kid almost always finished first.

Anonymous wrote:I have heard there is a parent on our team trying to get the coach fired but I'm not sure why. I'm not in that parent group. We had a winning season, and the kids had a ton of fun. My kids had a blast. What more can you ask for? Some parents suck!

Anonymous wrote: ... families ready to fight to the death over getting the coveted 3rd spot like lunatics.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP, the last B meet was past the entry deadline as set by the divisionals meet automation. It prob should have been conveyed to parents but some parents suck anyways. By the 5th week, the coach already knows who swimming in Divisionals. The chances of getting a great B time to swim Divisionals are slim.

That depends on the pool. Ours has kids constantly moving in and out of A meets. Divisionals require at least 5 swimmers (10 swims with each kid have a maximum of 2) so an age group with 7 or 8 kids who are relatively close isn't going to be set until the last minute.

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Correct NVSL. Didn't realize MCSL did things differently.

Still pools communicate deadlines and which times do and don't count for divisionals ahead of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the season is over with all stars remaining, what kind of drama did you have this summer with your swim team?

We had parents very upset that times from the last B meet were not used for the Divisional lineups. The divisional lineup was already set before the last B Meet.

If that was the case then parents and swimmers should have been informed of this ahead of time. It seem odd that B meet times all count, but that one doesn't. Sure it cuts it close but there is still time.

If it’s mcsl it’s in the rule book. B meets are not official mcsl meets - often they are held against teams in other divisions that are close geographically. The teams choose these and how many.

Divisionals is for the swimmers who swam best during the official division meets.



“Meet entries – seeding times. Swimmers and relays must be entered in an event with the best time achieved during the current MCSL season. Times must be achieved in a current season MCSL dual (“A”) meet or the division relay (relay carnival) meet. Times achieved as a “swim-up” in an MCSL dual (“A”) meet can be used as long as the stroke and distance of the swim-up event is the same as the swimmer’s divisional event. If an eligible swimmer has not swum a particular event in an MCSL meet, that swimmer must be entered with a “no time”, Exhibition times, previous season times, and “B” meet times cannot be used as seeding times for divisionals.”

I actually think not using a last B meet result is a deadline issue. The pool that is handling automation typically sets the deadlines for entries as there is a lot that goes into producing the entry file for a 6-team meet and these are volunteers performing the tasks. In my pool's case, divisional entries exchange was the Sunday before divisionals. So it may have been out of your pool's hands to include entries from Wednesday as they would have been too late. So it is not "odd" but rather past the deadline for entries. The coach or reps could have easily relayed that info though.

And to clarify above, as PP points out, coaches can enter anyone they want (including choosing to use B meet times that are swum before the entry deadline) but they would be seeded as NT and therefore in the slowest heat/slowest lane (or seeded with an achieved A meet time that is slower). A coach may choose not to do that, as it is often hard to race (and therefore score points) out of the slow heat.

But the answer is that B meet was past the entry deadline as set by the divisionals meet automation.

Team Rep hear- we did not need to finalize and submit out divisional meet entries until Wednesday so still plenty of time to use the Monday B meet. Some Div make them due Tuesday evening.

Our team has a fun b-meet relay event the last monday so this makes things easy as we have all the divisional times we need after the last saturday A meet.

If you have a Monday B meet, guessing you are NVSL pool? I am MCSL rep, so talking about eutomation deadlines for that league and a Wednesday meet 3 days before would be too late. NVSL runs a lot differently and has different standards for divisionals.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the season is over with all stars remaining, what kind of drama did you have this summer with your swim team?

We had parents very upset that times from the last B meet were not used for the Divisional lineups. The divisional lineup was already set before the last B Meet.

If that was the case then parents and swimmers should have been informed of this ahead of time. It seem odd that B meet times all count, but that one doesn't. Sure it cuts it close but there is still time.

If it’s mcsl it’s in the rule book. B meets are not official mcsl meets - often they are held against teams in other divisions that are close geographically. The teams choose these and how many.

Divisionals is for the swimmers who swam best during the official division meets.



“Meet entries – seeding times. Swimmers and relays must be entered in an event with the best time achieved during the current MCSL season. Times must be achieved in a current season MCSL dual (“A”) meet or the division relay (relay carnival) meet. Times achieved as a “swim-up” in an MCSL dual (“A”) meet can be used as long as the stroke and distance of the swim-up event is the same as the swimmer’s divisional event. If an eligible swimmer has not swum a particular event in an MCSL meet, that swimmer must be entered with a “no time”, Exhibition times, previous season times, and “B” meet times cannot be used as seeding times for divisionals.”

I actually think not using a last B meet result is a deadline issue. The pool that is handling automation typically sets the deadlines for entries as there is a lot that goes into producing the entry file for a 6-team meet and these are volunteers performing the tasks. In my pool's case, divisional entries exchange was the Sunday before divisionals. So it may have been out of your pool's hands to include entries from Wednesday as they would have been too late. So it is not "odd" but rather past the deadline for entries. The coach or reps could have easily relayed that info though.

And to clarify above, as PP points out, coaches can enter anyone they want (including choosing to use B meet times that are swum before the entry deadline) but they would be seeded as NT and therefore in the slowest heat/slowest lane (or seeded with an achieved A meet time that is slower). A coach may choose not to do that, as it is often hard to race (and therefore score points) out of the slow heat.

But the answer is that B meet was past the entry deadline as set by the divisionals meet automation.

Team Rep hear- we did not need to finalize and submit out divisional meet entries until Wednesday so still plenty of time to use the Monday B meet. Some Div make them due Tuesday evening.

Our team has a fun b-meet relay event the last monday so this makes things easy as we have all the divisional times we need after the last saturday A meet.

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Anonymous wrote:Our Jr. Coaches get paid and don't want to work for their money. Sometimes they don't show up and when they do, they do nothing. I felt bad for the hour coach too.

As far as I can tell jr. coach and assistant coach positions at our pool are a work program for the kids of swim team reps and pool board members.

If they're committed, experienced, and do a great job, is there a problem with that? Are there others who would like to apply who are not considered? At our pool the assistant coaches are almost all college swimmers, and generally got their start coaching pre-team for years before that.