Anonymous
07/25/2023 11:14
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.
Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?
WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.
This comment shows your ignorance and bias. If what you say is true, then Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, Tufts and others are also for Ivy League rejects and Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell are all for Harvard rejects.
It's somewhat true. The only schools that aren't truly Ivy League reject schools where kids actually prefer the non-Ivy are Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Duke. The rest are more often than not a backup if you're not confident about getting into an Ivy/you didn't get in. And this isn't counting Cornell, since there are a lot of schools kids tend to prefer to Cornell.
What about Johns Hopkins? Would you that add that to the list above?
Unfortunately most still prefer ivy to Johns Hopkins. The average high schooler probably prefers it over Cornell and maybe Dartmouth, but other than that no. You could also make an argument for UChicago or Northwestern, but the ones that are certain like PP said are Stanford, MIT, Duke, Caltech.
It is absolutely amazing about how some posters know what others' motivations are. Where does this hubris come from? Oh well, I only come to DCUM for the insanity and inanity. Unfortunately I worry that many posters are government lawyers shirking their duties.
Anonymous
07/25/2023 10:34
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Carleton is not need blind. It had to give that up years ago. But agree that Carleton is not known for having wealthy students.
Carleton draws disproportionately from the Midwest. Looking at average income figures, the most filthy rich come from right here in suburban Washington. I'm not saying that Carleton is immune from hypocrisy when admitting students based on parental income but their draw area is not as advantaged as all the hypocrite posters on DCUM.
Anonymous
07/25/2023 10:16
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.
Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?
WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.
This comment shows your ignorance and bias. If what you say is true, then Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, Tufts and others are also for Ivy League rejects and Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell are all for Harvard rejects.
It's somewhat true. The only schools that aren't truly Ivy League reject schools where kids actually prefer the non-Ivy are Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Duke. The rest are more often than not a backup if you're not confident about getting into an Ivy/you didn't get in. And this isn't counting Cornell, since there are a lot of schools kids tend to prefer to Cornell.
What about Johns Hopkins? Would you that add that to the list above?
Unfortunately most still prefer ivy to Johns Hopkins. The average high schooler probably prefers it over Cornell and maybe Dartmouth, but other than that no. You could also make an argument for UChicago or Northwestern, but the ones that are certain like PP said are Stanford, MIT, Duke, Caltech.
Anonymous
07/25/2023 08:51
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.
Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?
WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.
This comment shows your ignorance and bias. If what you say is true, then Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, Tufts and others are also for Ivy League rejects and Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell are all for Harvard rejects.
It's somewhat true. The only schools that aren't truly Ivy League reject schools where kids actually prefer the non-Ivy are Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Duke. The rest are more often than not a backup if you're not confident about getting into an Ivy/you didn't get in. And this isn't counting Cornell, since there are a lot of schools kids tend to prefer to Cornell.
What about Johns Hopkins? Would you that add that to the list above?
Anonymous
07/25/2023 08:46
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.
Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?
WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.
This comment shows your ignorance and bias. If what you say is true, then Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, Tufts and others are also for Ivy League rejects and Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell are all for Harvard rejects.
It's somewhat true. The only schools that aren't truly Ivy League reject schools where kids actually prefer the non-Ivy are Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Duke. The rest are more often than not a backup if you're not confident about getting into an Ivy/you didn't get in. And this isn't counting Cornell, since there are a lot of schools kids tend to prefer to Cornell.
+1
Anonymous
07/25/2023 08:43
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
What about High Point, Fairfield, and the University of San Diego?
Anonymous
07/25/2023 08:41
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:None of this is surprising OP - are you actually surprised?
I might of thought University of San Diego would be on the list.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 21:11
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Colorado College? Weird list.
Look at the graph. Colorado College has some of the lowest-earning graduates and they come from great wealth.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 16:50
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:It seemed like everyone at Notre Dame was from a multi-millionaire family. Outside from a handful of low income charity cases.
It's not on the rich list.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 16:49
Subject: Re:Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We make more than $229k and that $85k year is absolutely painful, especially with another also in college in another year.
None of those salaries qualify for aid. Schools without large endowments or need blind are t on the list because most kids at those schools barely pay anything out of pocket.
+1
This is exactly why tuition will always increase. The full pay are subsidizing several other students.
52% of all the other students. Yep. You start realizing you are the only kid not getting any $ and working multiple jobs when you are a donut hole kid at one of these places.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 15:23
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.
Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?
It is Median not average incomes. The list looks completely different when you use average incomes when billionaire and hundred millionaire kids can completely skew the averages.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 14:07
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of this is surprising OP - are you actually surprised?
I would’ve expected brown university to be on the list and also perhaps USC. Maybe even Pepperdine.
Agree that it is a bit surprising that Pepperdine, USC, & Brown, as well as Notre Dame, Northwestern, & Boston College are not among the top 25 schools on this list.
Not surprised with re to Pepperdine as it is a small school that competes in D1 so there are a lot of scholarship athletes relative to the class size. There are also plenty of other students who are obscenely wealthy.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 14:03
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.
Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?
WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.
This comment shows your ignorance and bias. If what you say is true, then Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, Tufts and others are also for Ivy League rejects and Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell are all for Harvard rejects.
It's somewhat true. The only schools that aren't truly Ivy League reject schools where kids actually prefer the non-Ivy are Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Duke. The rest are more often than not a backup if you're not confident about getting into an Ivy/you didn't get in. And this isn't counting Cornell, since there are a lot of schools kids tend to prefer to Cornell.
This is a very narrow and archaic view. Many smart students may want to go the Ivies, but many will also NOT want to go there and do not apply. You assume that almost all top students want to go to the Ivies. The really smart students today will often look at what colleges fit them best. They don't all blindly want to go to the Ivies.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 13:14
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html
Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)
53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)
I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.
Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?
WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.
This comment shows your ignorance and bias. If what you say is true, then Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, Tufts and others are also for Ivy League rejects and Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell are all for Harvard rejects.
It's somewhat true. The only schools that aren't truly Ivy League reject schools where kids actually prefer the non-Ivy are Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Duke. The rest are more often than not a backup if you're not confident about getting into an Ivy/you didn't get in. And this isn't counting Cornell, since there are a lot of schools kids tend to prefer to Cornell.
Anonymous
07/24/2023 13:11
Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Colleges giving generous aid or scholarships don't focus on enrolling wealthiest.