When I taught as an adjunct at a community college, the nursing program was difficult for students to get into mostly because there's a shortage of nursing school faculty. I think it's always been that way, a shortage of nursing school faculty.

Lots of nurses posted on here, so that's good.

Any nurses agree with the bullying of nurses by nurses as a downside to the profession?

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Anonymous wrote:A nurse lives in Potomac in a huge mansion and super rich from nursing. It can be lucrative.

She owns an urgent care chain

She’s a rich business owner, nurse is immaterial

Yes, that's like comparing a staff accountant to a partner at an accounting firm.

I would say, given shortages and burnout rates and just the horrible way many hospital systems are treating nurses right now, that she should consider a speciality like CNM, NP, or PA rather than a hospital nurse. Nursing is a great profession though!

Income etc aside, it's God's work. Thank you to all the wonderful nurses who really care, and are there for people in their hours of need.

Anonymous wrote:I'm an RN. DC is an RN. Nursing is a vocation. Not a job. If your child is looking for a job- look elsewhere.
Flexibility in types of work and areas of work are good.
I'm proud of being a nurse. And proud of my DC for being a damn good nurse.

Calm down Blanch!

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent career path. My sister is a CRNA and can work whatever days she wants (usually about 2-3 weeks a month), has the ability to make lots of overtime and makes about $250k a year in a lcol area.

Robotic anesthesia will reduce that lucrative niche don’t count on same money in future.

Still need someone to sit there and monitor vitals which is basically all she does now.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent career path. My sister is a CRNA and can work whatever days she wants (usually about 2-3 weeks a month), has the ability to make lots of overtime and makes about $250k a year in a lcol area.

Robotic anesthesia will reduce that lucrative niche don’t count on same money in future.

What’s robotic anesthesia? Would that impact an anesthetiologist?

Automated anethesia https://pubs.asahq.org/anesthesiology/article/132/2/219/108799/Robots-Will-Perform-Anesthesia-in-the-Near-Future I think most automatic medicine (including anesthesia) is more likely to replace higher paid MDs than nurses. Unless you have the surgeon monitoring the anethesia, someone still has to do it and a nurse making half as much as a doctor seems more likely to keep their job.

Maybe, but sht flows down so if doctor pay drops, nurse pay would drop.

Nursing is not "downhill" from medicine. Nursing pay is not affected by MD pay. Sorry. Lots of doctors are very bitter about how much money RNs made during Covid vs. how much doctors were making. Nurses habitually make more money than residents and lower paid doctors.

I’m a doctor and I’m thrilled that nurses are getting paid more and showing hospitals their worth. Good for them! Nothing can get done without nurses. I’m jealous of the nurse schedule Vs doctor schedule. Nursing seems more built for moms (3 days a week being full time for example). I would have considered doing nursing Vs medical school knowing what I know now.

Anonymous wrote:How is the pay for nurses these days??

Neighbor works at Inova faurfax and she nurses start at $80K plus potentially more with shift differentials and overtime. Seems good to me for starting pay.

Nursing school is hard. It is not for the average student, it is for the ambitious and determined student. The BSN will only get you so far - most nurses at this education level will want to advance their career after a few years. And the only way to do that is more school. Higher degrees, speciality certifications, more credentials. Going to college for nursing is only the beginning - I would want my child to know that. But yes I would definitely support the idea. (Signed, a nurse - of course)

My daughter has researched nursing programs for all of the colleges she is applying to. We’ve toured several. They appear HARD. She’s going to be in a ton of demanding classes and completing clinicals on the side. (That’s if she gets in. These programs are really competitive.)

I’m very proud of her for selecting nursing. I know she’ll make a difference while simultaneously making a salary better than mine. (I’m a teacher.)

I have even more respect for nurses after touring these programs. Wow.

Anonymous wrote:Responses are all over the map here.

I think a lot depends on what you think is good pay. A lot of people in DCUM think $100K is poverty wages, so nursing seems like bad pay for terrible conditions. If that's good pay to you (like it is for lots of people), then you'll see it differently.

I tend to think it's a good paying, in demand job with often bad conditions, but if you can tolerate those, it's a good choice. That's based on friends and family's experience, not my own.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an RN. DC is an RN. Nursing is a vocation. Not a job. If your child is looking for a job- look elsewhere.
Flexibility in types of work and areas of work are good.
I'm proud of being a nurse. And proud of my DC for being a damn good nurse.

This is such nonsense. Nursing is a job. You have to have the skills and personality to do well at it, iike any other job.

+1 I'm a nurse and have found that the nurses who come in with the "vocation" mindset are the quickest to burn out and leave the field.

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an excellent career path. Good money, flexibility, always in demand, (if want) become NP...etc. I'd support my kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent career path. My sister is a CRNA and can work whatever days she wants (usually about 2-3 weeks a month), has the ability to make lots of overtime and makes about $250k a year in a lcol area.

Robotic anesthesia will reduce that lucrative niche don’t count on same money in future.

What’s robotic anesthesia? Would that impact an anesthetiologist?

Automated anethesia https://pubs.asahq.org/anesthesiology/article/132/2/219/108799/Robots-Will-Perform-Anesthesia-in-the-Near-Future I think most automatic medicine (including anesthesia) is more likely to replace higher paid MDs than nurses. Unless you have the surgeon monitoring the anethesia, someone still has to do it and a nurse making half as much as a doctor seems more likely to keep their job.

Maybe, but sht flows down so if doctor pay drops, nurse pay would drop.

Nursing is not "downhill" from medicine. Nursing pay is not affected by MD pay. Sorry. Lots of doctors are very bitter about how much money RNs made during Covid vs. how much doctors were making. Nurses habitually make more money than residents and lower paid doctors.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent career path. My sister is a CRNA and can work whatever days she wants (usually about 2-3 weeks a month), has the ability to make lots of overtime and makes about $250k a year in a lcol area.

Robotic anesthesia will reduce that lucrative niche don’t count on same money in future.

What’s robotic anesthesia? Would that impact an anesthetiologist?

Automated anethesia https://pubs.asahq.org/anesthesiology/article/132/2/219/108799/Robots-Will-Perform-Anesthesia-in-the-Near-Future I think most automatic medicine (including anesthesia) is more likely to replace higher paid MDs than nurses. Unless you have the surgeon monitoring the anethesia, someone still has to do it and a nurse making half as much as a doctor seems more likely to keep their job.

Maybe, but sht flows down so if doctor pay drops, nurse pay would drop.

Or the overpaid employee would be replaced by the lesser paid employee paired with a computer.