Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:08
Subject: SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
What I don't udnerstand....if someone had come to the web developer with a job to do this website, the developer could have simply said, I am too busy, can I refer you to company X and they will do a great job for you, or some such.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:08
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You conservatives have caught the car now. Between this, the student loan forgiveness and Dobbs (which people are still incensed about), you are losing a lot of independent voters. The rabid base cannot carry you over. The pendulum will swing the other way so hard, your heads will spin.
Meh. Dobbs maybe. But don't think most people are passionate enough about loans, Harvard AA or forcing people to make websites to turn out the vote.
The thing is, the bolded NEVER happened. It was a made up scenario that ended up, somehow, at the Supreme Court. So SCOTUS just declared itself homophobic to fit its Evangelical/Catholic bent. Irony - Jesus himself never would have supported this decision.
Judicial activism is what it is.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:08
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:You conservatives have caught the car now. Between this, the student loan forgiveness and Dobbs (which people are still incensed about), you are losing a lot of independent voters. The rabid base cannot carry you over. The pendulum will swing the other way so hard, your heads will spin.
+1
It’s going to be hard for maga bigots to claim that “it’s just that trans people are taking it too far” and “it’s for the children!!” when it’s pretty clearly anti gay bigotry from start to finish. They want gay people back in the closet. Or dead.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:06
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You conservatives have caught the car now. Between this, the student loan forgiveness and Dobbs (which people are still incensed about), you are losing a lot of independent voters. The rabid base cannot carry you over. The pendulum will swing the other way so hard, your heads will spin.
Meh. Dobbs maybe. But don't think most people are passionate enough about loans, Harvard AA or forcing people to make websites to turn out the vote.
The thing is, the bolded NEVER happened. It was a made up scenario that ended up, somehow, at the Supreme Court. So SCOTUS just declared itself homophobic to fit its Evangelical/Catholic bent. Irony - Jesus himself never would have supported this decision.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:05
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You conservatives have caught the car now. Between this, the student loan forgiveness and Dobbs (which people are still incensed about), you are losing a lot of independent voters. The rabid base cannot carry you over. The pendulum will swing the other way so hard, your heads will spin.
Meh. Dobbs maybe. But don't think most people are passionate enough about loans, Harvard AA or forcing people to make websites to turn out the vote.
LOL. Here's what is going to trickle down to the non-involved voter: Biden tried to help those with student loans, republicans stopped it. Also, republicans allow discrimination against LGBTQ people (the DeSantis debacle will also reinforce this). Oh, and also the book banning. That is going over really well too.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:05
Subject: SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
This will end the "Log Cabin Republicans" - and so much for the Libertarians on the right.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:04
Subject: SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
I'm passionate about refusing service to MAGAs and Catholics. Can't wait to try this out Supreme Court!
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:02
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:You conservatives have caught the car now. Between this, the student loan forgiveness and Dobbs (which people are still incensed about), you are losing a lot of independent voters. The rabid base cannot carry you over. The pendulum will swing the other way so hard, your heads will spin.
Meh. Dobbs maybe. But don't think most people are passionate enough about loans, Harvard AA or forcing people to make websites to turn out the vote.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:02
Subject: SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
By inference, the rest of us are now free to discriminate against people who belong to a religious group that believes their authority is based on a guy coming back to life after being murdered by the Romans.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 11:00
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
You conservatives have caught the car now. Between this, the student loan forgiveness and Dobbs (which people are still incensed about), you are losing a lot of independent voters. The rabid base cannot carry you over. The pendulum will swing the other way so hard, your heads will spin.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 10:56
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?
Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.
Wedding websites are all different. This is a custom request. You don't know what she may be asked to do.
And, that is what this case is about. You cannot compel a person to create something against their beliefs.
Just like I would never create something for a follower of Satan. And, I would be within my rights to refuse that.
So tell me about the wedding website you saw that would have made someone go against their "beliefs."
We registered at stores x, y, and z.
Hotels are here and here.
Wedding events are this, this, and this.
Is it the pictures of the people you think violate someone's belief? So just acknowledging that a same sex couple EXISTS would violate the web designer's beliefs?
Every wedding website I have always seen has a fairly lengthy bio about the couple. This would likely come under things that are in conflict with one's beliefs. As would be a custom graphic that she may be asked to do.
The bottom line is that she cannot simply deny service to people based on their sexual preference. But, she CAN deny CUSTOM items that would force her to "speak" something she is opposed to.
and the only thing about the bio that is "against the beliefs" is that instead of "Ann and Dan" it is "Dan and Dan"
Big deal.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 10:54
Subject: SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The 'wise latina' continues to dissent longer than normal. Surprised?
She is the definition of an activist judge. Look at her record, she is the most extreme of all the Supremes, but never gets called out because she is the "good kind" of activist judge.
No, activitst judges are one who overturn "settled law" (according to their testimony) like the Dobbs ruling and yesterday's decision.
Anonymous
06/30/2023 10:54
Subject: Re:SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, you think it is appropriate for people to be FORCED to make statements in which they don't believe?
Do you know what a wedding website is? It has info about hotel blocks and registries. It's not a statement of beliefs.
Wedding websites are all different. This is a custom request. You don't know what she may be asked to do.
And, that is what this case is about. You cannot compel a person to create something against their beliefs.
Just like I would never create something for a follower of Satan. And, I would be within my rights to refuse that.
She isn't going to be asked to provide a video porn link, sheesh.
That said, I hope all the MAGAs put something on their websites indicating "their beliefs" so I know what businesses not to support.
Anonymous
Anonymous
06/30/2023 10:51
Subject: SCOTUS sided with Christian Web Designer
Link to news stories involving hotels and restaurants refusing to serve blacks in 2023? I’ll wait.