Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 07:28     Subject: Month vacation
I work in healthcare and have 10 weeks off a year. Spouse is the same but has 13 weeks off a year. Still considered FT. Work hard, play harder.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 07:28     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d bet they are “WFH.” Just like all the folks at Costco and the driving range, and the carline at half day camp.


What are you insinuating?


She's insinuating that she is jealous as all get out!


So it’s obviously true.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 07:26     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your company can manage a month+ without you, do they really need you at all? Neither DH nor I has ever had a kind of job where people can take a month or leave at once barring FMLA.


This is such an American take. I used to live in Europe and it’s common there to take 3-4 weeks of vacation in the summer. Basically all of Western Europe shuts down for the month of August and guess what, it’s glorious and the world doesn’t end.


But we are talking about America. Try to focus.


Yes, we are in America, where people may work for European companies or have jobs with clients in Europe. You can slow down when they do. It’s glorious!

Or it could be teachers, nannies, generous leave packages, any of the things mentioned above.


I’m not sure what’s more smug: the “European” reference or continuing to use the word “glorious.” Both are like nails on a chalkboard.


I found “Try to focus” more smug.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 07:03     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your company can manage a month+ without you, do they really need you at all? Neither DH nor I has ever had a kind of job where people can take a month or leave at once barring FMLA.


This is such an American take. I used to live in Europe and it’s common there to take 3-4 weeks of vacation in the summer. Basically all of Western Europe shuts down for the month of August and guess what, it’s glorious and the world doesn’t end.


But we are talking about America. Try to focus.


Yes, we are in America, where people may work for European companies or have jobs with clients in Europe. You can slow down when they do. It’s glorious!

Or it could be teachers, nannies, generous leave packages, any of the things mentioned above.


I’m not sure what’s more smug: the “European” reference or continuing to use the word “glorious.” Both are like nails on a chalkboard.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 06:59     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your company can manage a month+ without you, do they really need you at all? Neither DH nor I has ever had a kind of job where people can take a month or leave at once barring FMLA.


This is such an American take. I used to live in Europe and it’s common there to take 3-4 weeks of vacation in the summer. Basically all of Western Europe shuts down for the month of August and guess what, it’s glorious and the world doesn’t end.


But we are talking about America. Try to focus.


Yes, we are in America, where people may work for European companies or have jobs with clients in Europe. You can slow down when they do. It’s glorious!

Or it could be teachers, nannies, generous leave packages, any of the things mentioned above.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 06:15     Subject: Month vacation
It’s the sign of a well run company if employees can take time off.
Why are so many Americans proud of the fact that their company can’t accommodate any absences?
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 00:09     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d bet they are “WFH.” Just like all the folks at Costco and the driving range, and the carline at half day camp.


What are you insinuating?


She's insinuating that she is jealous as all get out!
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 00:06     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could be family wealth. I have been asked this by a friend. We travel extensively, I don’t work and my husband works for a startup so it ‘doesn’t add up’. Do I think it’s odd to ask people about their money situations, yes, but I’d rather someone be direct than talk behind my back or make assumptions.


I think it’s the whole month off that’s odd. Most people can’t get away for 4 weeks straight because their job needs them.

We are an office of mostly immigrants. We take vacations of minimum 3-4 weeks to go visit family. Nothing odd about it.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2023 00:04     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your company can manage a month+ without you, do they really need you at all? Neither DH nor I has ever had a kind of job where people can take a month or leave at once barring FMLA.


You just conceive of your value in very narrow terms. If I take an extended vacation, I'm delegating work to members of my team who I hired, trained, and set up to succeed, something that offers longterm benefits to my organization and which I know they want me to continue to do. It also means my clients are happy enough with me and my work and the status on our projects not to freak out that I will be out of the office (checking in periodically and calling into any major meetings, but not working full time) for a handful of weeks. I also have a track record that brings in work and retains ongoing clients. That doesn't disappear because I went on a long vacation.

If the only value you offer to your clients or your company is showing up, you are not as valuable as you think you are.


And you are an arrogant piece of shit. You’re not that important.

Looks like someone struck a nerve.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2023 22:21     Subject: Re:Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:Fed here. Some feds request and use 3-4 weeks of their annual leave in the summer but are always in the office for Spring Break, end of the year, etc. The ones I know are hard-working and just save their leave.


Same thing in my agency. A number of first generation immigrants travel for 3-4 weeks annually to visit family at different times of year, often summer if they have kids in school. But non-immigrant staff take long stretches of leave as well. Some of them probably aren’t that valuable, but many have work that can be shifted among teammates, or honestly work that may be able to wait a few weeks. I don’t know if any senior management taking extended leave like that except for parental leave, but it’s fairly normal for others.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2023 22:14     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your company can manage a month+ without you, do they really need you at all? Neither DH nor I has ever had a kind of job where people can take a month or leave at once barring FMLA.


You just conceive of your value in very narrow terms. If I take an extended vacation, I'm delegating work to members of my team who I hired, trained, and set up to succeed, something that offers longterm benefits to my organization and which I know they want me to continue to do. It also means my clients are happy enough with me and my work and the status on our projects not to freak out that I will be out of the office (checking in periodically and calling into any major meetings, but not working full time) for a handful of weeks. I also have a track record that brings in work and retains ongoing clients. That doesn't disappear because I went on a long vacation.

If the only value you offer to your clients or your company is showing up, you are not as valuable as you think you are.


It really depends on the job. I’m not sure what you do that can be delegated to so many other people but some jobs just can’t.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2023 22:11     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:Could be family wealth. I have been asked this by a friend. We travel extensively, I don’t work and my husband works for a startup so it ‘doesn’t add up’. Do I think it’s odd to ask people about their money situations, yes, but I’d rather someone be direct than talk behind my back or make assumptions.


I think it’s the whole month off that’s odd. Most people can’t get away for 4 weeks straight because their job needs them.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2023 22:01     Subject: Month vacation
I assume most have family in these areas as everyone I know who has done this, that’s their situation. It’s a first generation immigrant thing and it’s expected yearly.

Often they either work for themselves or work remotely . Or just have a lot of vacation time. I know I could easily take a month off using PTO (I don’t bc there’s no one to do my job fully so I’d just come back to a huge pile of work but I technically could!)
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2023 21:42     Subject: Month vacation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your company can manage a month+ without you, do they really need you at all? Neither DH nor I has ever had a kind of job where people can take a month or leave at once barring FMLA.


You just conceive of your value in very narrow terms. If I take an extended vacation, I'm delegating work to members of my team who I hired, trained, and set up to succeed, something that offers longterm benefits to my organization and which I know they want me to continue to do. It also means my clients are happy enough with me and my work and the status on our projects not to freak out that I will be out of the office (checking in periodically and calling into any major meetings, but not working full time) for a handful of weeks. I also have a track record that brings in work and retains ongoing clients. That doesn't disappear because I went on a long vacation.

If the only value you offer to your clients or your company is showing up, you are not as valuable as you think you are.


And you are an arrogant piece of shit. You’re not that important.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2023 21:39     Subject: Re:Month vacation
Are they Turkish and visiting family? We are and stay two weeks minimum and have done so with a combination of vacation, periods between jobs, working remotely, working for ourselves…longer stays in home countries are pretty normal in my circle.