Anonymous
06/09/2023 23:59
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC is at McLean, and brought home the senior year edition of the school magazine with school commitments. It's not entlrely complete, of course, since it's self reported. However, I wanted to give some hope to next year's applicants (of which DC is one) that good outcomes are still possible even in this horrible college application environment:
Ivy + MIT: Yale (4), Harvard (2), Cornell (2), Dartmouth (2), Penn, Brown, MIT
Other T30: Georgetown (3), Southern Cal (3), Johns Hopkins (2), Duke (2), Michigan (2), Georgia, Wake Forest, Case Western, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Chicago, Georgia Tech
Top Virginia: UVA (26), VT (22), W&M (16)
Other Virginia: JMU (10), GMU (10), VCU (5), CNU (2), VMI, NoVA, Shenandoah, Emory & Henry, Hampden-Sydney, UMW
SLAC: Bucknell (2), Wesleyan, Tufts, Carleton, Macalester, West Point, Kenyon, Haverford, Wheaton, Franklin & Marshall, Juniata, Muhlenberg
OOS Publics: Tennessee (6), Penn State (6), Pitt (4), Ohio State (4), Illinois (4), Purdue (4), Maryland (3), Colorado (3), Indiana (2), Washington (2), Wisconsin (2), Temple (2), Delaware, Florida State, Kentucky, Kansas, Michigan State, Minnesota, Oregon, Oregon State, Clemson, South Carolina, Utah, Vermont, Auburn, Arizona, UC Irvine, SD State, Colorado State, South Florida, Montana, Miami U, U-Mass,
Other: Cambridge, McGill, Toronto, U-Miami, BC (3) BU (2), Northeastern, NYU, Syracuse (4), GWU (2), Howard, Elon (4), San Diego, Loyola Marymount, Tampa, Rollins, Loyola Chicago, Loyola MD, RPI, Pratt (2), Bowling Green (2), Dayton, Xavier,
Interesting list -- thanks for sharing. I'd note, however, that Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Case Western are NOT T30 schools.
I didn't want to nit pick lol, but This!.
Georgia Tech certainly is top 30 in engineering and technology, which is really what it does. It is quite a bit stronger there than quite a few "top 30" USNWR.
Georgia Tech is outstanding for engineering/technology, but come on, when someone on DCUM says a particular university is a TXX school in a general sense (i.e., there's no discussion of a major or particular program), we all know that means overall ranking.
But that is silly in this case.
It is. Georgia tech is no 1 in the nation for aerospace engineering
Anonymous
06/09/2023 23:52
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
I saw TJ and Langley’s college destinations too. Like McLean, below expectations, to say the least.
After the SCOTUS guts race based AA, colleges will be more blatant discriminating against “rich” families. UC has done that for over two decades. After the Harvard case is decided, colleges will use parents’ socioeconomic conditions and whether they went to college as proxy for race even more blatantly. A decade ago my friend in CA (a very liberal woman) complained that colleges preferred to admit unwed teenage moms just because so few of them went to college!
After the SCOTUS guts race based AA, colleges will be more blatant discriminating against “rich” families. UC has done that for over two decades. After the Harvard case is decided, colleges will use parents’ socioeconomic conditions and whether they went to college as proxy for race even more blatantly. A decade ago my friend in CA (a very liberal woman) complained that colleges preferred to admit unwed teenage moms just because so few of them went to college!
Anonymous
06/09/2023 22:25
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC is at McLean, and brought home the senior year edition of the school magazine with school commitments. It's not entlrely complete, of course, since it's self reported. However, I wanted to give some hope to next year's applicants (of which DC is one) that good outcomes are still possible even in this horrible college application environment:
Ivy + MIT: Yale (4), Harvard (2), Cornell (2), Dartmouth (2), Penn, Brown, MIT
Other T30: Georgetown (3), Southern Cal (3), Johns Hopkins (2), Duke (2), Michigan (2), Georgia, Wake Forest, Case Western, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Chicago, Georgia Tech
Top Virginia: UVA (26), VT (22), W&M (16)
Other Virginia: JMU (10), GMU (10), VCU (5), CNU (2), VMI, NoVA, Shenandoah, Emory & Henry, Hampden-Sydney, UMW
SLAC: Bucknell (2), Wesleyan, Tufts, Carleton, Macalester, West Point, Kenyon, Haverford, Wheaton, Franklin & Marshall, Juniata, Muhlenberg
OOS Publics: Tennessee (6), Penn State (6), Pitt (4), Ohio State (4), Illinois (4), Purdue (4), Maryland (3), Colorado (3), Indiana (2), Washington (2), Wisconsin (2), Temple (2), Delaware, Florida State, Kentucky, Kansas, Michigan State, Minnesota, Oregon, Oregon State, Clemson, South Carolina, Utah, Vermont, Auburn, Arizona, UC Irvine, SD State, Colorado State, South Florida, Montana, Miami U, U-Mass,
Other: Cambridge, McGill, Toronto, U-Miami, BC (3) BU (2), Northeastern, NYU, Syracuse (4), GWU (2), Howard, Elon (4), San Diego, Loyola Marymount, Tampa, Rollins, Loyola Chicago, Loyola MD, RPI, Pratt (2), Bowling Green (2), Dayton, Xavier,
Interesting list -- thanks for sharing. I'd note, however, that Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Case Western are NOT T30 schools.
I didn't want to nit pick lol, but This!.
Georgia Tech certainly is top 30 in engineering and technology, which is really what it does. It is quite a bit stronger there than quite a few "top 30" USNWR.
Georgia Tech is outstanding for engineering/technology, but come on, when someone on DCUM says a particular university is a TXX school in a general sense (i.e., there's no discussion of a major or particular program), we all know that means overall ranking.
But that is silly in this case.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 20:38
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that the SLAC list is pretty limited and not that impressive
There are over 600 grads. The list is incomplete.
Also, this list shows were kids attended. Not where they got in. Personally, my kid would go to a lesser LAC with merit and we pay full price for s higher ranked one.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 20:26
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Go Highlanders! So proud of your hard work.
Congrats to all of the region’s high school graduates. You guys are an amazing bunch!
Congrats to all of the region’s high school graduates. You guys are an amazing bunch!
Anonymous
06/09/2023 19:11
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems better than Langley’s
It has been, for years.
No, actually, it hasn’t. What a strange comment. Langley has all of the same acceptances plus several at Stanford in the past couple of years. But do go on.
You need to do your research. It is MUCH easier to be admitted to HYPSM and T20 from McLean, than Langley.
Why don't you share your research? I don't see how anyone could make such a statement without access to more complete data on student admissions and destinations than most DCUM posters have access to. What students choose to share in a school newspaper or on Instagram sites just provides a partial picture.
- McLean parent not interested in a pissing contest w/Langley
Interesting that you didn't speak up about the bolded statements, asking them to "share their research." This thread was *designed* to start the usual pissing contest.
DP
I had the impression OP started the thread because she suffered through the earlier thread claiming that kids will stellar stats from McLean couldn't get into good schools. That thread was probably started by a troll, but in any case didn't age well.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "bolded statements." When I saw some later posts that seemed to be heading in the direction of a pissing contest, I responded to the last one I saw.
The graduates across the region deserve to celebrate their recent graduations and upcoming plans, so this would be a good time to be congratulatory, not snarky.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 19:01
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems better than Langley’s
It has been, for years.
No, actually, it hasn’t. What a strange comment. Langley has all of the same acceptances plus several at Stanford in the past couple of years. But do go on.
You need to do your research. It is MUCH easier to be admitted to HYPSM and T20 from McLean, than Langley.
Why don't you share your research? I don't see how anyone could make such a statement without access to more complete data on student admissions and destinations than most DCUM posters have access to. What students choose to share in a school newspaper or on Instagram sites just provides a partial picture.
- McLean parent not interested in a pissing contest w/Langley
Interesting that you didn't speak up about the bolded statements, asking them to "share their research." This thread was *designed* to start the usual pissing contest.
DP
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:58
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure I would have started a thread like this - kind of asking for trouble - but (1) I can understand OP's motivation given the earlier troll thread suggesting a kid with a 4.6 GPA from McLean couldn't get into any good schools and (2) it does look like a solid year in terms of destinations. Even better is that kids there supported each other's "outcomes" across the board. It was a nice group of seniors.
+1
McLean is known to be less cut throat than other public options.
So weird that McLean mom saw fit to start this thread.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:56
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC is at McLean, and brought home the senior year edition of the school magazine with school commitments. It's not entlrely complete, of course, since it's self reported. However, I wanted to give some hope to next year's applicants (of which DC is one) that good outcomes are still possible even in this horrible college application environment:
Ivy + MIT: Yale (4), Harvard (2), Cornell (2), Dartmouth (2), Penn, Brown, MIT
Other T30: Georgetown (3), Southern Cal (3), Johns Hopkins (2), Duke (2), Michigan (2), Georgia, Wake Forest, Case Western, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Chicago, Georgia Tech
Top Virginia: UVA (26), VT (22), W&M (16)
Other Virginia: JMU (10), GMU (10), VCU (5), CNU (2), VMI, NoVA, Shenandoah, Emory & Henry, Hampden-Sydney, UMW
SLAC: Bucknell (2), Wesleyan, Tufts, Carleton, Macalester, West Point, Kenyon, Haverford, Wheaton, Franklin & Marshall, Juniata, Muhlenberg
OOS Publics: Tennessee (6), Penn State (6), Pitt (4), Ohio State (4), Illinois (4), Purdue (4), Maryland (3), Colorado (3), Indiana (2), Washington (2), Wisconsin (2), Temple (2), Delaware, Florida State, Kentucky, Kansas, Michigan State, Minnesota, Oregon, Oregon State, Clemson, South Carolina, Utah, Vermont, Auburn, Arizona, UC Irvine, SD State, Colorado State, South Florida, Montana, Miami U, U-Mass,
Other: Cambridge, McGill, Toronto, U-Miami, BC (3) BU (2), Northeastern, NYU, Syracuse (4), GWU (2), Howard, Elon (4), San Diego, Loyola Marymount, Tampa, Rollins, Loyola Chicago, Loyola MD, RPI, Pratt (2), Bowling Green (2), Dayton, Xavier,
Interesting list -- thanks for sharing. I'd note, however, that Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Case Western are NOT T30 schools.
I didn't want to nit pick lol, but This!.
Georgia Tech certainly is top 30 in engineering and technology, which is really what it does. It is quite a bit stronger there than quite a few "top 30" USNWR.
Georgia Tech is outstanding for engineering/technology, but come on, when someone on DCUM says a particular university is a TXX school in a general sense (i.e., there's no discussion of a major or particular program), we all know that means overall ranking.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:52
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…
For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.
Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:47
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…
That's true, but it's also the case that there are also years where no one from "comparable public HSs" gets into certain Ivies at all. They may cap but the floor is zero, not 3-5.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:45
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems better than Langley’s
It has been, for years.
No, actually, it hasn’t. What a strange comment. Langley has all of the same acceptances plus several at Stanford in the past couple of years. But do go on.
You need to do your research. It is MUCH easier to be admitted to HYPSM and T20 from McLean, than Langley.
Why don't you share your research? I don't see how anyone could make such a statement without access to more complete data on student admissions and destinations than most DCUM posters have access to. What students choose to share in a school newspaper or on Instagram sites just provides a partial picture.
- McLean parent not interested in a pissing contest w/Langley
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:42
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:41
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:650 is a big graduating class. MCPS and DCPS tend to have smaller high schools
It was 620, not 650. I'd imagine the graduating classes at Blair and Walter Johnson were as large, if not larger, but most MCPS and certainly DCPS high schools are smaller.
Anonymous
06/09/2023 18:32
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that the SLAC list is pretty limited and not that impressive
The SLAC list is incomplete (for example, I'm personally aware of 2023 MHS graduates going to Amherst and Wellesley in addition to the schools listed by OP based on what was in the student newspaper). But I also think at big public high schools, even those that serve fairly affluent areas, there's been a tendency in recent years to favor larger schools over SLACs.