Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

So, if you work every day you'll make about $40k with no benefits. How is that very good pay? That is far less than the compensation of even a starting teacher.

It's very good pay for a sub. Typically subs make half that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

So, if you work every day you'll make about $40k with no benefits. How is that very good pay? That is far less than the compensation of even a starting teacher.

I don’t know of any subs for whom the job is their sole source of income. Most subs in the school I recently retired from are retirees (some former teachers) looking for a little extra income or a way to combat boredom. I personally don't sub because the pay is an embarrassment. That and I'm far from bored.

If MCPS paid subs as Chicago does, I'd definitely consider subbing a couple days a week. Subbing for a few sheckles above minimum wage? No. Way.

Yes, and that’s why we end up with losers for subs. When the best you can hope for is half-senile, that’s not a good situation. In other fields, where you actually care about the quality of sub workers, you pay more on an hourly basis than you do for full time staff.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

So, if you work every day you'll make about $40k with no benefits. How is that very good pay? That is far less than the compensation of even a starting teacher.

I don’t know of any subs for whom the job is their sole source of income. Most subs in the school I recently retired from are retirees (some former teachers) looking for a little extra income or a way to combat boredom. I personally don't sub because the pay is an embarrassment. That and I'm far from bored.

If MCPS paid subs as Chicago does, I'd definitely consider subbing a couple days a week. Subbing for a few sheckles above minimum wage? No. Way.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

So, if you work every day you'll make about $40k with no benefits. How is that very good pay? That is far less than the compensation of even a starting teacher.

I don’t know of any subs for whom the job is their sole source of income. Most subs in the school I recently retired from are retirees (some former teachers) looking for a little extra income or a way to combat boredom. I personally don't sub because the pay is an embarrassment. That and I'm far from bored.

If MCPS paid subs as Chicago does, I'd definitely consider subbing a couple days a week. Subbing for a few sheckles above minimum wage? No. Way.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

So, if you work every day you'll make about $40k with no benefits. How is that very good pay? That is far less than the compensation of even a starting teacher.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

So, if you work every day you'll make about $40k with no benefits. How is that very good pay? That is far less than the compensation of even a starting teacher.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a MCPS teacher my first thought (sadly) was, "How the heck did they find a sub?". The bulk of the sub jobs at my school don't get picked up so usually our paras cover the classes.

You have paras cover classes? Lucky! Ours don’t. Teachers don’t just give up our planning time at my school, we miss department and PLC meetings. It happens once a week to me. No wonder 30 people chose to leave.

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

Anonymous wrote:MCPS should take notes from Chicago public and how they pay their subs. If a sub in Chicago has a teaching license, pay starts at $187.
Then, teachers get $30 more on top of that for teaching in a special education position.
They get an extra $30 for teaching on a Monday or a Friday.
They get an extra $45 for teaching in a "hard to staff" school.
AND if they sub at least 12 days a month, they get a $450 stipend for the month.

All in all, subs in Chicago with teaching licenses can earn VERY good pay. Plus, there's no grading, no meetings, and very little BS. Yes, you must be excellent at classroom management. But this system has helped Chicago secure subs. It hasn't completely solved the issue because it is still a really hard job. But it has helped a lot. You stop getting so many crazies or drunks when you pay people what the job deserves.

Anonymous wrote:Never a dull moment at MCPS and more specifically, Magruder.

I thought people said it was very difficult to get vetted and approved to be a sub in MCPS? Doesn't seem like it if drunks are making it through the screening process.

Anonymous wrote:As a MCPS teacher my first thought (sadly) was, "How the heck did they find a sub?". The bulk of the sub jobs at my school don't get picked up so usually our paras cover the classes.