He's from, NJ and thus used to it.

He isn't wrong. and it shows just how far "gone" the rank and file GOP are. The GOP of Lincoln and Reagan is long dead. There is no home for true, actual conservatives.

The best bet is for actual conservative to vote for Biden or whoever the Dem candidate is, and hope that our republic can be spared the wrath of a Christian Nationalist autocracy. And then regroup the party in whatever arises after.

There is room in the US political dicourse for fiscal restraint and "normal middle Amerca 'values"

But what passes for normal in the GOP is embodied by Trumpism and Speaker Johnson's radical view of Christian theocracy.

If Johnson's rhetoric was wrapped in the Koran rather than Bible, he would be no different than the Taliban. Not exagerating.

Anonymous wrote:And this

https://www.nj.com/politics/2017/07/christie_pictured_at_island_beach_state_park_durin.html

He should be unelectable, but who knows these days

One of my favorite pictures ever!

He also took a state helicopter to his son's baseball game, then instead of walking ~100 yards to the bleachers, had a state limousine drive him there.
https://www.nj.com/news/2011/05/gov_christie_arrives_at_sons_h.html
Good times!

Anonymous wrote:And this

https://www.nj.com/politics/2017/07/christie_pictured_at_island_beach_state_park_durin.html

He should be unelectable, but who knows these days

Trump should be unelectable also and yet he's the frontrunner.

This is good, though.

Anonymous wrote:He can even fit through a gate. Babble babble babble. Absolutely no one on either side worth getting excited about. Where are the undamaged, intelligent, articulate, virtuous candidates?

You know this is the Republican primary, right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he should run. He’s not likable.

He's the only Republican I do like

Me too
-a democrat

He can even fit through a gate. Babble babble babble. Absolutely no one on either side worth getting excited about. Where are the undamaged, intelligent, articulate, virtuous candidates?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he should run. He’s not likable.

He's the only Republican I do like

The problem with Trump is that he basically threw open Overton’s Window. GWB was absolutely hated and loathed when he left office in 2008. He was a bastard who basically destroyed a million lives in Iraq and crashed the global economy. But in hindsight, he looks pretty good compared to Trump. Trump was the best thing that ever happened to GWB’s legacy.

Similarly, Christie was a total sh#thead but now looks pretty good in comparison to Trump. Christie wasn’t staging coups or promoting 2A gun toting convoys of supporters.

This country’s voters are basically abuse victims, rationalizing otherwise crappy behaviors because we’ve been traumatized by worse (Trump).

I agree. - but also it's pretty normal for politicians to be better liked once they are out of office. Everything looks better once you're done dealing with the day to day of it. And GWB became friends with Michelle Obama, so that gave him some whitewashing - plus those charming paintings. Look what we think of Jimmy Carter today, for pete's sake!

I guess Christie sounds like a normal person when he talks. The other Rs sound so creepy and weird. They use language that doesn't make any sense to me. They have these bizarre sing song voices. They make my skin crawl and my brain hurt.

Christie sounds like a guy. A smart guy I could imagine talking to about normal things. I would never vote for a Republican at this stage of our dying democracy, but I do think if he became president it wouldn't be a total effin catastrophy. He'd do a lot of stuff I disagreed with, and we'd be overall fine. The others - I don't think so.

I don't care about Bridgegate. I grew up in Rhode Island and I sort of miss the days of petty corruption and fighting at that level. It all looks so low stakes compared to now.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he should run. He’s not likable.

He's the only Republican I do like

The problem with Trump is that he basically threw open Overton’s Window. GWB was absolutely hated and loathed when he left office in 2008. He was a bastard who basically destroyed a million lives in Iraq and crashed the global economy. But in hindsight, he looks pretty good compared to Trump. Trump was the best thing that ever happened to GWB’s legacy.

Similarly, Christie was a total sh#thead but now looks pretty good in comparison to Trump. Christie wasn’t staging coups or promoting 2A gun toting convoys of supporters.

This country’s voters are basically abuse victims, rationalizing otherwise crappy behaviors because we’ve been traumatized by worse (Trump).

And this

https://www.nj.com/politics/2017/07/christie_pictured_at_island_beach_state_park_durin.html

He should be unelectable, but who knows these days

Remember when he caused a massive traffic jam for no reason other than punishing another politician?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he should run. He’s not likable.

He's the only Republican I do like

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He seems very reasonable and he certainly has the experience.

I don’t think I would call him reasonable. He was the first mainstream Republican to go really hard after public school teachers when he was Governor. He was always picking fights with teachers, degrading them & their service in public. He said some really nasty things that were below the office of the Governor. He basically set the stage for the lunacy we see these days, with a small minority of extremist rightwing parents attacking schools and teachers. He was really disrespectful and basically kicked off the Republican Party’s War on Schools.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2013/11/a_chronology_of_gov_chris_christies_battles_with_teachers_and_their_union.html

Talk about punching down!

Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure the buddy-buddy pictures of Christie and Obama were all related to the Federal Government helping NJ after Superstorm Sandy. Yes, when your state has been pummeled by a massive storm, you want to be nice to the people helping you rebuild.

Why wasn’t Christie wearing white boots, then, so right-wingers would know this is a storm-hostage handshake and not a real handshake?