Anonymous
06/05/2023 11:03
Subject: Re:University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:UC schools are not worth the OOS costs. There are plenty of much better schools that give merit or cost less. Apply just to see as it is simple, but don't hold your breathe hoping you get in.
You're right they are not cheap as OOS, but be real, few schools compare to UCLA, UCSF, Berkeley.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:59
Subject: University of California schools
One thing to consider when looking at UC schools - it’s a bit of a rat race for students. They are BIG schools without a lot of the advising and hand holding many DMV area students - especially from privates - are used to. Cal accepts an entire additional freshman class in January because they anticipate a high drop up rate… it’s a tough environment if your kid is not extremely independent and used to bring their own advocate.
Plus housing is tough to find and can be very expensive after freshman year.
- UC alum
Plus housing is tough to find and can be very expensive after freshman year.
- UC alum
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:57
Subject: University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:Oh - and I know the UC website says that each location reviews apps on their own so it doesn’t matter how many locations a student applies to, but does DCUM think that really correct?
Hi OP. UCLA grad living in LA and just went through college process including applying to the UCs with two kids. Yes, this is correct. After checking the boxes on what UCs your kid is interested in, the application is forwarded to those UCs. Each handles it a little differently after that. Do not worry that if your DC applies to Merced, that Berkeley will pass on them because they know that your DC has a spot at Merced. It doesn't work that way.
The only tricky thing is for UCSD, they want the applicant to rank their (it's like their sub-college environment, forget what they call it) and even with research, it's a little confusing. But it's a minor thing.
Tangent: FYI, AFTER going to a UC, it's very hard to transfer to another UC, as they don't want to poach from each other.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:47
Subject: Re:University of California schools
UC schools are not worth the OOS costs. There are plenty of much better schools that give merit or cost less. Apply just to see as it is simple, but don't hold your breathe hoping you get in.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:47
Subject: University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All big unis offer research opportunities. Why focus on UCs?
No racial discrimination by law.
Are you serious? That's the reason?
It is certainly a reason. If you want racial discrimination there are better options. UCs focus on merit.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:34
Subject: University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All big unis offer research opportunities. Why focus on UCs?
No racial discrimination by law.
Are you serious? That's the reason?
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:32
Subject: University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:All big unis offer research opportunities. Why focus on UCs?
No racial discrimination by law.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:29
Subject: Re:University of California schools
Apply to the UC's and also CU Boulder. The environments are similar. Both are very outdoorsy except Colorado does not have a beach, but it has everything else.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 10:23
Subject: Re:University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD will be starting at UCSD in the fall. I will check what her stats were -- she was very independent with the college app process, and so I need to ask her.We are from the DMV, and DD went to a private school. BTW, the total cost of attendance for UCSD is $72,000 per year. (The supplement for OOS students is $32,000.)
We are in CA. I have been looking into the admissions stats for the UC colleges for my rising Junior. UCSD posts that 82% of their incoming freshman have a WGPA of 4.4 or more. It makes it one of the colleges with higher stats along with UCSB (and UCLA/Berkeley).
I think in state students have different stats than OOS.
those stats were for ALL incoming Freshman so will include OOS and in-state.
Given OOS is such a tiny minority, like 1-3% of the intake, it's kind of moot.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 09:41
Subject: Re:University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:My DD will be starting at UCSD in the fall. I will check what her stats were -- she was very independent with the college app process, and so I need to ask her.
Have you DD say "hi" to my DD. Also at UCSD from DMV.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 09:35
Subject: Re:University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD will be starting at UCSD in the fall. I will check what her stats were -- she was very independent with the college app process, and so I need to ask her.
We are in CA. I have been looking into the admissions stats for the UC colleges for my rising Junior. UCSD posts that 82% of their incoming freshman have a WGPA of 4.4 or more. It makes it one of the colleges with higher stats along with UCSB (and UCLA/Berkeley).
I think in state students have different stats than OOS.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 09:33
Subject: Re:University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:My DD will be starting at UCSD in the fall. I will check what her stats were -- she was very independent with the college app process, and so I need to ask her.
We are in CA. I have been looking into the admissions stats for the UC colleges for my rising Junior. UCSD posts that 82% of their incoming freshman have a WGPA of 4.4 or more. It makes it one of the colleges with higher stats along with UCSB (and UCLA/Berkeley).
Anonymous
06/05/2023 08:14
Subject: Re:University of California schools
My DD will be starting at UCSD in the fall. I will check what her stats were -- she was very independent with the college app process, and so I need to ask her. We are from the DMV, and DD went to a private school. BTW, the total cost of attendance for UCSD is $72,000 per year. (The supplement for OOS students is $32,000.)
We are from the DMV, and DD went to a private school. BTW, the total cost of attendance for UCSD is $72,000 per year. (The supplement for OOS students is $32,000.)
Anonymous
06/05/2023 07:21
Subject: University of California schools
I have a kid at Berkeley and so far she has managed to get all classes. Like a previous poster said sometimes they are waitlists but it usually clears. So far she is on track to graduate in 3 years because she had a lot of AP credits but may choose to do a double major in 4 years. Based on what I have heard, classes are very intense and rigorous. My dd seemed to have found her crowd but as with any school it depends a lot on the kid. Upper division classes are smaller and she has managed to get a research position.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 03:47
Subject: University of California schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:According to my DD’s school (in state) admission results for UCs, it was very difficult.
Kids with 3.8-4.0 (not UC GPA, unweighted) only handful total got into UCLA, UCB, UCSD,UCSB.
These kids were top kids with very strong EC and also got into some Ivies and other T25 schools.
Can’t imagine how hard it’ll be for out-of- state.
There’s some things you need to know about UC schools. Perhaps many state flagship shares same problem but class registration is a battle ground.
Many kids who is majoring popular subjects end up change their major or delay graduation because they could not take desired classes on time.
My friend told me UCLA requires freshman to sign up 10 back-up classes for each class they register.
10 back ups?
I don’t know what kind of research opportunities there could be if you can’t even register for undergraduate classes. Research opportunities are mainly for graduate school students and PHDs.
School reputations are great, but with huge class sizes and registration war, I don’t know if it’s worth out-of -state tuition.
Better go to smaller private colleges if you want to really research as undergrad. Like Liberal Art Colleges.
"My friend told me." Every time there is a thread on UCs, someone (usually from CA) pipes up about how nobody can graduate on time. As a parent who actually has a child who currently attends UCLA, this is an exaggeration. Have TEN BACK UP CLASSES!!?? They can't even do that. My DC will graduate next year, on time, with a double major and a minor. All of DCs friends are graduating in four years as well. Yes, sometimes they can't get the classes they want in popular majors right away, but in the end, they always do. Because the first two weeks of every quarter, there is a lot of movement with students dropping classes and wait lists moving quickly so DC has always gotten into the classes they needed. These kids are very smart and figure out how to work through whatever hurdles come their way. And there are plenty of research opportunities for undergrads. As an OOS family, UCLA has been totally worth it. DC has had amazing internship opportunities as well, as UCLA opens a lot of doors.
My sister is a professor in a popular major at Stanford and she has told me that she has had to advise students to take required courses over the summer because they are oversubscribed there as well. This happens at a lot of universities.
OP - talk to people who actually have students at the schools your DC is interested in. Don't listen to the noise.
+100%. Kids learn to work the system and get classes they want or need. 4 year graduate rate similar to other similar flagship state schools and higher than USC. Lots of reasons not to go to large research universities but the idea that need 10 backup classes is ridiculous.