Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 08:11     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Teachers do get 2 months off. It is unique.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 08:11     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
But other professionals put in more than 40 hours a week and are expected to answer emails in the evenings and weekends too!
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 08:11     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.



FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.


Many salaried jobs are not just 40 hours. On average I work roughly 50 hours a week and my husband works 60 per week. Not a valid argument bc the same thing happens in the private sector.


Yes. But the point is teachers are working more than 195 days a year. With all the overtime hours they put in it adds up to more days. This is in response to a PP who said if they worked all year.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 08:10     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.

But other professionals put in more than 40 hours a week and are expected to answer emails in the evenings and weekends too!

FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 08:08     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.



FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.


Don’t forget to subtract out two weeks for winter break and one week for spring break for teachers as well, where they don’t have to take vacation days. That’s another 3 weeks right there in FCPS - so a difference on 65 days by your count. I think that’s a lot fwiw.


No. 195 days are Working days. So your math is wrong.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 07:56     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.



FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.


Many salaried jobs are not just 40 hours. On average I work roughly 50 hours a week and my husband works 60 per week. Not a valid argument bc the same thing happens in the private sector.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 07:55     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.


Time off won’t pay my bills. The jobs I can get in the summer don’t fully pay them either.


So get a different job? I missed the part where you were forced into teaching with no way out.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 07:48     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
The 3% raise is frustrating because the senior leadership team is expanding in 2023-24 and they have also promoted themselves and received a larger than 3% raise (but they will now also receive 3% raise). Flattened the organization, net neutral, more efficient.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 07:44     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:The biggest problem is when steps are frozen the teachers don’t get back the steps they “lost” during the freeze.

I think FCPS should pay its teachers a market rate competitive with loudoun and Arlington.

Don’t forget teachers also get pensions as part of their compensation.


FCPS already pays market rate. Check out the WABE guide. Plus FCPS teachers get a second pension so are often the highest paid when you count total compensation.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 07:33     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.


Time off won’t pay my bills. The jobs I can get in the summer don’t fully pay them either.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 06:29     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Teaching is exhausting. Trying to meet the needs of 24 to 32 kids, multitasking so much of the time, teaching (in elementary school) all the different subjects and being thorough about it. Spending extra time each day planning. Putting on a new show every day, with a new script that you have to write yourself. I enjoy teaching, and enjoy helping others, but it takes a lot out of me.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 06:21     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
I’m on the teachers’ side for pay raises but they’re not martyrs in my opinion. I’m a former teacher and my husband is a current teacher.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 06:20     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.



FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.


Don’t forget to subtract out two weeks for winter break and one week for spring break for teachers as well, where they don’t have to take vacation days. That’s another 3 weeks right there in FCPS - so a difference on 65 days by your count. I think that’s a lot fwiw.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 06:18     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
The biggest problem is when steps are frozen the teachers don’t get back the steps they “lost” during the freeze.

I think FCPS should pay its teachers a market rate competitive with loudoun and Arlington.

Don’t forget teachers also get pensions as part of their compensation.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2023 05:24     Subject: 3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!
Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.



FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.