Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 17:08     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the e-mail that we got from the school, it looks like they're losing 4 and have already hired 9? Is it typical to fill next year's positions before this year has ended?

They’ve learned some lessons and have started recruiting earlier
It probably means that nine announced their resignations early on - you know, the “non-dregs”, and so they replaced them, including specialist positions, which are easier to fill. They likely now have four more openings. The resignations come in waves. Now that teachers have signed their contracts you will see less of it, but that doesn’t stop them from going to other schools within the district.

Contracts haven’t come for APS yet, June 9th
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 16:54     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the e-mail that we got from the school, it looks like they're losing 4 and have already hired 9? Is it typical to fill next year's positions before this year has ended?

They’ve learned some lessons and have started recruiting earlier
It probably means that nine announced their resignations early on - you know, the “non-dregs”, and so they replaced them, including specialist positions, which are easier to fill. They likely now have four more openings. The resignations come in waves. Now that teachers have signed their contracts you will see less of it, but that doesn’t stop them from going to other schools within the district.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 16:49     Subject: Re:Where are they going to find the teachers?

Doesn’t VA require a master’s degree to teach? In my home state (a unionized, non-RTW state) you can teach with a bachelor’s in education.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 16:47     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the e-mail that we got from the school, it looks like they're losing 4 and have already hired 9? Is it typical to fill next year's positions before this year has ended?


Yes, because new grads are abundant and so are people transferring in district. It’s the dregs still looking for jobs in July.
RUDE. That dreg may be your child’s future teacher who has stepped up to teach 24 kids. With attitudes like that, no wonder people are leaving teaching in droves.

RUDE
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 16:19     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:From the e-mail that we got from the school, it looks like they're losing 4 and have already hired 9? Is it typical to fill next year's positions before this year has ended?

They’ve learned some lessons and have started recruiting earlier
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 16:04     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:From the e-mail that we got from the school, it looks like they're losing 4 and have already hired 9? Is it typical to fill next year's positions before this year has ended?


Yes, because new grads are abundant and so are people transferring in district. It’s the dregs still looking for jobs in July.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 15:22     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

From the e-mail that we got from the school, it looks like they're losing 4 and have already hired 9? Is it typical to fill next year's positions before this year has ended?
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 15:16     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s reaching crisis level and no one is doing a damn thing about it.


If DCUM is any indicator, they’re in denial. “Whatever, it’s no worse than any other year.”

They’re delusional.


I'm not sure what you think anyone can do, to create people who aren't there.


Oh, oh I have some ideas!

Pay them better

Put some actual Covid protocols in place so they don't get Covid repeatedly

Give them better leave when they do get sick

Stop listening to the awful parents rights crowd

Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 15:14     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Not once have I met a transfer from New England. They are mostly local or from the south.


That's weird. I know a ton of teachers around here from the northeast.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 14:21     Subject: Re:Where are they going to find the teachers?

Recruit the good teachers out of DCPS. A bad day at APS is still better than a good day in DCPS. I know three already who accepted jobs at APS.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 08:47     Subject: Re:Where are they going to find the teachers?

I told a newly minted teacher to turn down a job offer at an ACPS elementary school. Gave them some information and they ran.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 08:40     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if admin has a bad reputation and and they are failing to recruit and retain teachers, then they should be reassigned.


Um. Who exactly is going to be the new admin?



I know half a dozen with admin degrees chomping at the bit, actually.


Absolutely.

I work with a lot of teachers who have admin degrees. It’s a great gig. You can stay in education without the planning, grading, and teaching.

Filling admin openings will just make the teacher vacancy issue worse.

Really?! Our admin look so stressed out all the time


APS is constantly advertising their “leadership academy” to teachers because so many are “chomping at the bit.” They even “extended the deadline to apply!” Chomping!


Lots of teachers ARE, in fact, angling to get out of the classroom by whatever means. 2 years ago that academy would’ve been full immediately but now teachers have realized that it’s no better and possibly worse than the classroom.

Anyway, get ready for outsourced online classes from K12, Pearson or some other vendor being taught by a contractor in Manila.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 08:36     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s reaching crisis level and no one is doing a damn thing about it.


If DCUM is any indicator, they’re in denial. “Whatever, it’s no worse than any other year.”

They’re delusional.


There was literally a post in another thread this week where someone claimed there was no teacher shortage because the uva Ed school graduation was crowded.

DCUM at it’s finest.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 08:17     Subject: Re:Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VA is where teachers who couldn’t get a job in unionized Northeast states go.

-New England native


HA! It is funny, my sister taught in APS and moved to MA. She is appalled by the teaching there and says the teachers are actively awful and ride on the high SES of their students to get test scores.
PP is right though. If you can get one of those unionized jobs you stay, if you can’t VA is a frequent landing spot. It’s job protection, not that schools are better


Oh, they are indeed better.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2023 08:14     Subject: Where are they going to find the teachers?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think if admin has a bad reputation and and they are failing to recruit and retain teachers, then they should be reassigned.


Um. Who exactly is going to be the new admin?



I know half a dozen with admin degrees chomping at the bit, actually.


Absolutely.

I work with a lot of teachers who have admin degrees. It’s a great gig. You can stay in education without the planning, grading, and teaching.

Filling admin openings will just make the teacher vacancy issue worse.

Really?! Our admin look so stressed out all the time


APS is constantly advertising their “leadership academy” to teachers because so many are “chomping at the bit.” They even “extended the deadline to apply!” Chomping!
can’t imagine why people wouldn’t want to take on all the stress for less time off and not that much more money in the beginning