Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 13:00     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:WFH has nuked productivity at my company, in two specific ways. First, it has multiplied time in meetings by two- or threefold. This means that there is far less time for actual work. We now have many managers who don't do anything other than receive requests are reroute them to others via email, PowerPoint, and Teams. This is literally like the guy in Office Space who takes requirements from customers to engineers because he's a a people person, damnit. Secondly, it has essentially made it impossible to train new people. It turns out that entry level employees need lots of in-person time--instructional and unstructured--to become productive. We've now gotten to the point where the senior leaders who moved away or refuse to come in are on their way out, and we're only hiring new employees locally. WFH, for us, was a failed experiment.


I agree a lot with this response. For instance, right now I need to find out which person does X program. So I'll send out an email, it will bounce around, won't receive a response for a few days (because the amount of emails everyone receives are in the hundreds) and I am delayed. Previously I could just ask around or pop into someone's office briefly. Or previously I likely would have just known who did X project because I spoke to people at lunch or at the coffee station. I'm getting really frustrated every day.

Meetings and emails are just out of control and they haven't given us the collaboration that we used to have.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:55     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
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OP this is the whole point!!! why not let ppl do what makes them happy? why ruin someone else's life bc you prefer to be in an office? Insane to me to force ppl who do not want to share space with you to do so.


We're tired of you sociopaths rewriting society just because you hate people.


We? Consider moving then. Idaho is beautiful and people are very social out there


Just gross. You people destroyed everything.


Destroyed what exactly? Go in to spend time with people like you? Don’t think so.


Sociopath. You know nothing about me, and yet you hate me. So glad I left DC.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:54     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
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OP this is the whole point!!! why not let ppl do what makes them happy? why ruin someone else's life bc you prefer to be in an office? Insane to me to force ppl who do not want to share space with you to do so.


We're tired of you sociopaths rewriting society just because you hate people.


We? Consider moving then. Idaho is beautiful and people are very social out there


Just gross. You people destroyed everything.


Destroyed what exactly? Go in to spend time with people like you? Don’t think so.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:46     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:I think WFH is great for those jobs that can be perfectly carried out at home. But there's definitely abuse by some, whose job is best performed on site. For example, at my agency, the travel office barely has any staff on a given day, yet most of our forms and documents need to be processed in person, so there's always a long delay.


Why do the forms and documents need to be processed in person?
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:41     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:Slacking off on the job never existed prior to COVID and WFH. Everyone in the office was always super productive and now everyone sits at home and does nothing.


That’s rich
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:40     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Slacking off on the job never existed prior to COVID and WFH. Everyone in the office was always super productive and now everyone sits at home and does nothing.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:37     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
I'd love to know if HR disciplinary issues have gone up or down with WFH. Less opportunities for in-person harassment, microaggressions, verbal strife, discrimination, etc.

But I think WFH likely contributes to more time card fraud.

So maybe its a wash out. Still, the CRE savings for firms can be tremendous.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:36     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
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OP this is the whole point!!! why not let ppl do what makes them happy? why ruin someone else's life bc you prefer to be in an office? Insane to me to force ppl who do not want to share space with you to do so.


We're tired of you sociopaths rewriting society just because you hate people.


We? Consider moving then. Idaho is beautiful and people are very social out there


Just gross. You people destroyed everything.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:20     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:WFH has nuked productivity at my company, in two specific ways. First, it has multiplied time in meetings by two- or threefold. This means that there is far less time for actual work. We now have many managers who don't do anything other than receive requests are reroute them to others via email, PowerPoint, and Teams. This is literally like the guy in Office Space who takes requirements from customers to engineers because he's a a people person, damnit. Secondly, it has essentially made it impossible to train new people. It turns out that entry level employees need lots of in-person time--instructional and unstructured--to become productive. We've now gotten to the point where the senior leaders who moved away or refuse to come in are on their way out, and we're only hiring new employees locally. WFH, for us, was a failed experiment.


That sucks, and it sounds like WFH didn't work at your company. In my company, we've had the opposite experience. Meetings are shorter and often more streamlined. We've had to come up with new ways to train new, entry-level employees and bring them into our office culture, but it's been a success -- we've surveyed our new hires anonymously and regularly, and they all report feeling supported, connected to the office and like they're receiving the training they need to be successful (and their work output shows the same).

So, for us, it's been a success.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:17     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:Because we are human and need social interaction, facial expressions, and time to communicate outside of discrete work tasks to feel good about ourselves and be productive. People need to see and hear each other to informally learn from each other. We know that being together in person reduces cortisol and stress levels. Being isolated associated with higher levels of disease.


Some of us have kids and active social lives. I don’t need to spend my time having unnecessary social interaction with my coworkers, I need to do my job efficiently so I can have more time to focus on my life outside of work.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 12:03     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:WFH has nuked productivity at my company, in two specific ways. First, it has multiplied time in meetings by two- or threefold. This means that there is far less time for actual work. We now have many managers who don't do anything other than receive requests are reroute them to others via email, PowerPoint, and Teams. This is literally like the guy in Office Space who takes requirements from customers to engineers because he's a a people person, damnit. Secondly, it has essentially made it impossible to train new people. It turns out that entry level employees need lots of in-person time--instructional and unstructured--to become productive. We've now gotten to the point where the senior leaders who moved away or refuse to come in are on their way out, and we're only hiring new employees locally. WFH, for us, was a failed experiment.


+1 Especially the comment about recruiting and training new people. It's impossible to establish an office culture and expectations when everyone is remote. And the constant meetings that take 10x longer than they need to.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 11:57     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
WFH has nuked productivity at my company, in two specific ways. First, it has multiplied time in meetings by two- or threefold. This means that there is far less time for actual work. We now have many managers who don't do anything other than receive requests are reroute them to others via email, PowerPoint, and Teams. This is literally like the guy in Office Space who takes requirements from customers to engineers because he's a a people person, damnit. Secondly, it has essentially made it impossible to train new people. It turns out that entry level employees need lots of in-person time--instructional and unstructured--to become productive. We've now gotten to the point where the senior leaders who moved away or refuse to come in are on their way out, and we're only hiring new employees locally. WFH, for us, was a failed experiment.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 11:54     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

OP this is the whole point!!! why not let ppl do what makes them happy? why ruin someone else's life bc you prefer to be in an office? Insane to me to force ppl who do not want to share space with you to do so.


We're tired of you sociopaths rewriting society just because you hate people.


We? Consider moving then. Idaho is beautiful and people are very social out there
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 11:50     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:Because we are human and need social interaction, facial expressions, and time to communicate outside of discrete work tasks to feel good about ourselves and be productive. People need to see and hear each other to informally learn from each other. We know that being together in person reduces cortisol and stress levels. Being isolated associated with higher levels of disease.


Not working in the office. I get more human interaction then when I am in the office..

I don’t need to interact with coworkers in person. Not friends with them. Don’t need to be friends with them. Don’t want to be friends with them.

Anonymous
Post 05/23/2023 11:47     Subject: I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment
Anonymous wrote:Because we are human and need social interaction, facial expressions, and time to communicate outside of discrete work tasks to feel good about ourselves and be productive. People need to see and hear each other to informally learn from each other. We know that being together in person reduces cortisol and stress levels. Being isolated associated with higher levels of disease.

Speak for yourself.