Anonymous
05/23/2023 13:46
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the parents who said their kids scored a couple of grade levels above in iReady - were your kids naturally "mathie" so they scored above without any prep at home? or are you all supplementing math curriculum at home to support your kids natural math inclination, and thus were able to teach higher level concepts?
Because I know at school, my 1st grader does not get any "challenging" math work.
We did not and do not supplement. That said my spouse is a math teacher.
How is their background relevant?
It means that they didn’t pay to supplement but ended up doing things at home because Dad knows math and could work it into day to day activities. My husband is an engineer and was playing math games with our son at a very early age. He bought DS toddler and kids books that involved math because that is what interested him. It gave DS a leg up on math before K and continues today. DH enjoys finding hard math problems to solved with DS. I mean, they discuss math on walks, which is great but not anything I would discuss because I am more a humanities kind of gal. DS knows more about government and history then his peers because that is my jam.
OP: DS is really strong at math, always has been. Our school doesn’t move kids up for math or if they do, we didn’t pursue it. We do send DS to RSM where he participates in the regular class and the math competition class. He enjoys it. The regular math at school reinforces his foundations. I honestly didn’t see the point of pushing for advancement in math at school because the idea of online Algebra or a bus to MS for Algebra in first period and then a bus back to the ES for the rest of his day struck me as not ideal. I don’t see the benefit to completing Calculus in 10th grade. The supplementation is good for him, he gets problems that he needs help with and is far more challenged at RSM then school.
I met Math once too. He was a cool guy.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 12:28
Subject: Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:My son is in 3rd grade, and pushes into a 5th grade AAP class for math. The decision for acceleration was made by the school when he was in 1st grade. In Kindergarten, he worked with the AART. She was pulling from 3rd and 4th grade material to challenge him. Before he could be placed into the class, he was given a math test by the FCPS math department, and was deemed in need of acceleration.
Do you have a plan for 5th and 6th grade?
Anonymous
05/23/2023 12:08
Subject: Skipping grade2 math
Op- what level of subtraction because you didn’t write anything about that. The issue is plenty of kids are doing Kumon and/or Beast Academy and/or Singapore math. By the end of first my child had worked through the 2nd grade 2A and 2B of Singapore math plus the challenging word problems book (beast academy second grade wasn’t available back then). He also knew all multiplication facts to 12 and división plus how to do multi digit addition and subtraction effortlessly on paper and mentally because he was also doing kumon.
He was in a high ses school so there were other kids doing the same thing. And there were a couple of students doing absolutely nothing extra but they were just really gifted in math. None of this group skipped second grade math to go into third grade even though they all easily could have done the work. There just isn’t enough room in third grade math classes. They all ended up on accelerated math tracks by junior high.
Your child doesn’t sound that advanced compared to others who are advanced at the end of first.
He was in a high ses school so there were other kids doing the same thing. And there were a couple of students doing absolutely nothing extra but they were just really gifted in math. None of this group skipped second grade math to go into third grade even though they all easily could have done the work. There just isn’t enough room in third grade math classes. They all ended up on accelerated math tracks by junior high.
Your child doesn’t sound that advanced compared to others who are advanced at the end of first.
Anonymous
05/22/2023 10:41
Subject: Skipping grade2 math
Not op. We’re at high ses es and DC was identified as advanced in both math and reading at 1st grade by home room teacher and school math specialist teacher and was given grade 2 worksheets and marked above grade on report card, then school aart emailed us to have DC start level 2 math starting grade 2, but it turned out it’s in class differentiation with optional worksheets. My older DC used to have daily pull out for level 2 math learning accelerated grade 2 and part of grade 3 math in 2nd grade but they no longer have that. I’m glad DC is going to be level 4 aap starting 3rd grade. I think you can ask to refer your kid to level 2 math starting in grade 2, and aim for level 3 math or level 4 aap starting 3rd grade. Skipping grade would be very difficult. A kid at my older DC’s 5th grade aap class goes to 6th grade aap class for math but he’s several levels above grade level.
Anonymous
05/22/2023 10:21
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the parents who said their kids scored a couple of grade levels above in iReady - were your kids naturally "mathie" so they scored above without any prep at home? or are you all supplementing math curriculum at home to support your kids natural math inclination, and thus were able to teach higher level concepts?
Because I know at school, my 1st grader does not get any "challenging" math work.
We did not and do not supplement. That said my spouse is a math teacher.
How is their background relevant?
It means that they didn’t pay to supplement but ended up doing things at home because Dad knows math and could work it into day to day activities. My husband is an engineer and was playing math games with our son at a very early age. He bought DS toddler and kids books that involved math because that is what interested him. It gave DS a leg up on math before K and continues today. DH enjoys finding hard math problems to solved with DS. I mean, they discuss math on walks, which is great but not anything I would discuss because I am more a humanities kind of gal. DS knows more about government and history then his peers because that is my jam.
OP: DS is really strong at math, always has been. Our school doesn’t move kids up for math or if they do, we didn’t pursue it. We do send DS to RSM where he participates in the regular class and the math competition class. He enjoys it. The regular math at school reinforces his foundations. I honestly didn’t see the point of pushing for advancement in math at school because the idea of online Algebra or a bus to MS for Algebra in first period and then a bus back to the ES for the rest of his day struck me as not ideal. I don’t see the benefit to completing Calculus in 10th grade. The supplementation is good for him, he gets problems that he needs help with and is far more challenged at RSM then school.
Now I wonder how you and PP define "supplementation". Also, doesn't RSM put them on track for calculus by 10th?
I would call the math problems and games my DH does with my DS supplementation because it involves teaching new material and creatively using math. I suspect different people have different definitions.
RSM will move kids up grade levels if they test into it. We have found the grade level Honors class at RSM has provided more in-depth conversation and harder problems that are more challenging. I think it helps him better grasp the concepts he is being taught. DS is probably going to be in Algebra 1 in MS, I think that would lead to Calc in 11th grade. I believe he will do well on the IAAT and the SOL, he has plenty of math competition practice, so I don't think the timing on the IAAT is going to be an issue and he has passed advanced on all of his math SOLS.
I can see where RSM might help a kid take Geometry in the summer because you can start Geometry in 6th grade, it is an hour-long class that is meant to be taken over 3 years. He will have 2 years of that class under his belt by the end of 7th, which would probably make Geometry in the summer more doable.
Anonymous
05/22/2023 09:50
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the parents who said their kids scored a couple of grade levels above in iReady - were your kids naturally "mathie" so they scored above without any prep at home? or are you all supplementing math curriculum at home to support your kids natural math inclination, and thus were able to teach higher level concepts?
Because I know at school, my 1st grader does not get any "challenging" math work.
We did not and do not supplement. That said my spouse is a math teacher.
How is their background relevant?
It means that they didn’t pay to supplement but ended up doing things at home because Dad knows math and could work it into day to day activities. My husband is an engineer and was playing math games with our son at a very early age. He bought DS toddler and kids books that involved math because that is what interested him. It gave DS a leg up on math before K and continues today. DH enjoys finding hard math problems to solved with DS. I mean, they discuss math on walks, which is great but not anything I would discuss because I am more a humanities kind of gal. DS knows more about government and history then his peers because that is my jam.
OP: DS is really strong at math, always has been. Our school doesn’t move kids up for math or if they do, we didn’t pursue it. We do send DS to RSM where he participates in the regular class and the math competition class. He enjoys it. The regular math at school reinforces his foundations. I honestly didn’t see the point of pushing for advancement in math at school because the idea of online Algebra or a bus to MS for Algebra in first period and then a bus back to the ES for the rest of his day struck me as not ideal. I don’t see the benefit to completing Calculus in 10th grade. The supplementation is good for him, he gets problems that he needs help with and is far more challenged at RSM then school.
Now I wonder how you and PP define "supplementation". Also, doesn't RSM put them on track for calculus by 10th?
Anonymous
05/22/2023 08:10
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the parents who said their kids scored a couple of grade levels above in iReady - were your kids naturally "mathie" so they scored above without any prep at home? or are you all supplementing math curriculum at home to support your kids natural math inclination, and thus were able to teach higher level concepts?
Because I know at school, my 1st grader does not get any "challenging" math work.
We did not and do not supplement. That said my spouse is a math teacher.
How is their background relevant?
It means that they didn’t pay to supplement but ended up doing things at home because Dad knows math and could work it into day to day activities. My husband is an engineer and was playing math games with our son at a very early age. He bought DS toddler and kids books that involved math because that is what interested him. It gave DS a leg up on math before K and continues today. DH enjoys finding hard math problems to solved with DS. I mean, they discuss math on walks, which is great but not anything I would discuss because I am more a humanities kind of gal. DS knows more about government and history then his peers because that is my jam.
OP: DS is really strong at math, always has been. Our school doesn’t move kids up for math or if they do, we didn’t pursue it. We do send DS to RSM where he participates in the regular class and the math competition class. He enjoys it. The regular math at school reinforces his foundations. I honestly didn’t see the point of pushing for advancement in math at school because the idea of online Algebra or a bus to MS for Algebra in first period and then a bus back to the ES for the rest of his day struck me as not ideal. I don’t see the benefit to completing Calculus in 10th grade. The supplementation is good for him, he gets problems that he needs help with and is far more challenged at RSM then school.
Anonymous
05/22/2023 08:08
Subject: Skipping grade2 math
But if my kid can't skip grade 2 math they won't be set up for getting into TJ!?!?
Anonymous
05/21/2023 23:50
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the parents who said their kids scored a couple of grade levels above in iReady - were your kids naturally "mathie" so they scored above without any prep at home? or are you all supplementing math curriculum at home to support your kids natural math inclination, and thus were able to teach higher level concepts?
Because I know at school, my 1st grader does not get any "challenging" math work.
We did not and do not supplement. That said my spouse is a math teacher.
How is their background relevant?
I guess just saying we didn’t and don’t supplement but if anyone needs help with homework, for example, they have someone in house they can ask.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 23:35
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the parents who said their kids scored a couple of grade levels above in iReady - were your kids naturally "mathie" so they scored above without any prep at home? or are you all supplementing math curriculum at home to support your kids natural math inclination, and thus were able to teach higher level concepts?
Because I know at school, my 1st grader does not get any "challenging" math work.
We did not and do not supplement. That said my spouse is a math teacher.
How is their background relevant?
Anonymous
05/21/2023 23:00
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
Anonymous wrote:To the parents who said their kids scored a couple of grade levels above in iReady - were your kids naturally "mathie" so they scored above without any prep at home? or are you all supplementing math curriculum at home to support your kids natural math inclination, and thus were able to teach higher level concepts?
Because I know at school, my 1st grader does not get any "challenging" math work.
My 8th grader who is in geometry always liked math. He also was not given more challenging work at school until in 3rd grade AAP but made up math problems on his own. And I wrote *that* on his aap application - not that he was bored because no one else gave him more challenging work.
We did not and do not supplement. That said my spouse is a math teacher.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 20:31
Subject: Skipping grade2 math
Yes, he is in a level IV AAP class, and pushes up for math.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 20:16
Subject: Re:Skipping grade2 math
So is your son in level IV AAP
Anonymous
05/21/2023 19:15
Subject: Skipping grade2 math
My son is in 3rd grade, and pushes into a 5th grade AAP class for math. The decision for acceleration was made by the school when he was in 1st grade. In Kindergarten, he worked with the AART. She was pulling from 3rd and 4th grade material to challenge him. Before he could be placed into the class, he was given a math test by the FCPS math department, and was deemed in need of acceleration.